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| Take the reins | Jan 26, 2008 |
Brandis wrote:
each time when I wish to take a 2 week off for a shore I get so many projects and linked troubles, does it happen to you as well. I wish to go on a holiday and untroubled . Brandis. How to avoid this syndrom, it becomes a professional habit of not letting to go a customer dissatisfied because you are on a holiday mood, and continue and welll.... it continues. ...this is a terrible situation.
Hi Brandis,
Tell your clients in advance when your office will be closed. Give specific dates and ditch the mobile/laptop while you are away. Don't combine work and holidays. It never works out. And don't take on more work than you can handle. Grab it by the proverbials: yes, we're service providers, but most decent clients will respect our need for a break.
Best,
Amy
PS I think some of the comments here are a bit out of order.
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| | | | | dissemination route | Jan 26, 2008 |
Hi Brandis,
How are you going to distribute your book? Do you have a publisher lined up or are you going to print, bind and mail copies yourself? I presume even password-protected PDFs are too dodgy. Which languages is it going to be published in?
BTW, I've been wondering, what is "for a shore"?
Brandis wrote:
each time when I wish to take a 2 week off for a shore
Cheers,
Jill
[Edited at 2008-01-26 13:43]
| | | | Marcelo Silveyra
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is it me, or is this the most surreal forum thread to hit ProZ in a while?
| | | | Brandis (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | The distribution has to be strategic... | Jan 26, 2008 |
Gillian Scheibelein wrote: Hi Brandis, How are you going to distribute your book? Do you have a publisher lined up or are you going to print, bind and mail copies yourself? I presume even password-protected PDFs are too dodgy. Which languages is it going to be published in? BTW, I've been wondering, what is "for a shore"? Brandis wrote:
each time when I wish to take a 2 week off for a shore Cheers, Jill [Edited at 2008-01-26 13:43]
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| Thank you for clarifying that | Jan 26, 2008 |
Brandis wrote:
and does it for our team and participates in the earning, that is all. Brandis
Because your first posting made no sense at all.
| | | | Brandis (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | We have been working on this project may be over a year... | Jan 26, 2008 |
Lawyer-Linguist wrote: Brandis wrote:
and does it for our team and participates in the earning, that is all. Brandis Because your first posting made no sense at all.
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In memoriam
Brandis wrote:
The master document alone was over 3000 pages, we had to multiple revisions cut here and there and bring it to this form.
3,000 pages saved as a Word document? That's impressive, given that the Concise Oxford Dictionary boasts but a paltry 1,300-odd pages.
Duplex printing on rice paper and reducing font sizes could be a contribution towards reducing both your postal overhead and destruction of rain forests. Good luck with the project and do keep us posted.
Cheers
Chris
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TOPIC STARTER | not all 3000 pages as one document | Jan 26, 2008 |
Textklick wrote: Brandis wrote:
The master document alone was over 3000 pages, we had to multiple revisions cut here and there and bring it to this form. 3,000 pages saved as a Word document? That's impressive, given that the Concise Oxford Dictionary boasts but a paltry 1,300-odd pages. Duplex printing on rice paper and reducing font sizes could be a contribution towards reducing both your postal overhead and destruction of rain forests. Good luck with the project and do keep us posted. Cheers Chris
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Textklick wrote: Brandis wrote:
The master document alone was over 3000 pages, we had to multiple revisions cut here and there and bring it to this form. 3,000 pages saved as a Word document? That's impressive, given that the Concise Oxford Dictionary boasts but a paltry 1,300-odd pages. Duplex printing on rice paper and reducing font sizes could be a contribution towards reducing both your postal overhead and destruction of rain forests. Good luck with the project and do keep us posted. Cheers Chris
Rice paper and reducing font sizes - that is a wonderful idea indeed.
I would wholeheartedly suggest including a free magnifying glass if you go for those teeny-weeny fonts that just might do the trick.
Mira
| | | | | re Trados versions | Jan 26, 2008 |
Looks like you'll have plenty of work in the future if Trados continues to launch a new version every year. Judging by the number of Trados posts by Proz members, such a book will be a big hit. How much do you reckon you'll charge for it?
[Edited at 2008-01-26 15:55]
| | | | Brandis (X)
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TOPIC STARTER | hard to assess and set any pricing now.. | Jan 26, 2008 |
Gillian Scheibelein wrote:
Looks like you'll have plenty of work in the future if Trados continues to launch a new version every year. Judging by the number of Trados posts by Proz members, such a book will be a big hit. How much do you reckon you'll charge for it?
[Edited at 2008-01-26 15:55] We have considered a printed book issue and cancelled it, because it is time consuming and much foot work is involved. These days e-books are also getting ISBN entries. So that may be feasible and easy, this way however easy it may sound it involves also some work. We may also go by language pair and make the book available in the target country, but all of us hang together like a big bunch, meaning someone in the target country must take over the trouble of marketing. But we are also looking at some encryption software not like a .pdf encryption with a password, but a few variants have suggested that a buyer could buy and a key can be generated fitting his local comp site id. This way one would be able to use and the product is not portable to another comp and it cannot be printed either. So no one can copy. We are thinking to set the book size of about 120-200 pages. The first edition itself is after many cuts and patches has come to about 125 pages with index etc., We have hence not fixed any price yet, but I guess it will certainly not a big price. Brandis
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[Edited at 2008-01-26 16:39]
| | | | | I've missed a few. | Jan 26, 2008 |
Marcelo Silveyra wrote:
is it me, or is this the most surreal forum thread to hit ProZ in a while?
I don't see all threads, but this one has to be right up there.
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There is so much Trados support out there already, what makes this book so special? What gap will it fill in the market when most things can be sorted out easily with the manual/via forums etc anyhow? I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trados at the basic levels (you mentioned it was a book for beginners)
Isn't it just a rehash of the manual in actual effect? I mean what added-value can there possibly be that would make someone want to part with their €€€�... See more There is so much Trados support out there already, what makes this book so special? What gap will it fill in the market when most things can be sorted out easily with the manual/via forums etc anyhow? I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trados at the basic levels (you mentioned it was a book for beginners)
Isn't it just a rehash of the manual in actual effect? I mean what added-value can there possibly be that would make someone want to part with their €€€€s?
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| | | | | I was just about wondering about the same... | Jan 26, 2008 |
Marcelo Silveyra wrote:
is it me, or is this the most surreal forum thread to hit ProZ in a while?
Makes me think I am probably not a member of the secret society who uses the code language used in this thread. I am amazed at the number of things I don't understand here, while others seem to understand very well...
Now, Brandis, the best thing you can do is basically what Amy says. However, I somehow get the feeling that your clients ask you to work again on things you have already finished. It seems they either twist your arm into helping them more, at no cost maybe, and you miss out on stuff because of this - or you are simply taking on too much work and you don't have the kind of capacities you think you have.
Make sure that when it says "deadline this Monday" on the calendar, that you really do send off everything to the client and invoice them while you're at it (usually, an invoice makes the end of work official - it means you have done everything you agreed to do and you are done with the project). Make sure EVERYTHING you had to do is done, and well done, so your client doesn't need to contact you again until they have new work for you. You have to learn the meaning of the word "finished", and use that word, and give yourself plenty of occasions to use it.
All the best!
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TOPIC STARTER | Actually not... | Jan 27, 2008 |
Lawyer-Linguist wrote:
There is so much Trados support out there already, what makes this book so special? What gap will it fill in the market when most things can be sorted out easily with the manual/via forums etc anyhow? I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trados at the basic levels (you mentioned it was a book for beginners)
Isn't it just a rehash of the manual in actual effect? I mean what added-value can there possibly be that would make someone want to part with their €€€€s?
[Edited at 2008-01-26 18:53] We are probably going to price it moderately and give graphical overview of the working with some explanation etc., Additionally we have been also discussing in our group whether we should introduce interactive workshop recordings in form or a video as added effect,so that the product is more visual. Most of the translators still use only till 2006 or the former variants and only lately the sp2 for trados 2007 has been released, but the mass still does not have trados 2006. So we thought to include one non-uni and one uni code supported version such as trados 6.5.5 and the early versions 7.1 or so, from here the follow up packs will continue with unicode supported editions. We have tried a physical workshop offer but long communiting distances hotel stays etc., make that approach expensive both for the trainer and the student / participant as well. Then we had deployed this idea to yugma ( a tool from www.yugma.com) and took initial interactive workshop recordings later improved upon them. I for example know that trados is not so popular or widely used in non western language groups. Where there is still much demand there, with the advent of uni-code supported variants one would actualyl be in a position to translate in a couple of more languages. So considering these the pocket book or the entry workshop manual with video could be a solution. Well we have tried it and experimented with few university linguistic students the effect was amazing, they were getting on faster than imagined. With the issue of the video we still have to take permissions to publish from the participants, then only it can function. Else it will look less genuine if we simulate a workshop for the video alone. once Vista and later ms-windows and office editions are become riper products and we are not perpetually confronted with newer service packs and guess work to get to the solution while translating, our variant is still a good supprt and we can always still upgrade to newer editions. Infact we already have material here, but we have to find a beginning somewhere and there is nothing secretive about it .Brandis
[Edited at 2008-01-27 03:24]
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