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BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | License

xulihang — Tue, 07 Jan 2025 09:09:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: License

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:

Technically, this seems possible but I think it will be a lot of work - it's hard to say how much but it does seem doable. Before that, I would look at the licenses and make sure that such a port is allowed, if the result would need to be open source, etc. [/quote]

The license is GPL. If you directly copy the code, then you need to follow the GPL license. If you just rewrite the code, you don't have to follow it.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Reply from Xojo

CafeTran Trainer — Tue, 31 Dec 2024 08:42:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Reply from Xojo

Technically, this seems possible but I think it will be a lot of work - it's hard to say how much but it does seem doable. Before that, I would look at the licenses and make sure that such a port is allowed, if the result would need to be open source, etc.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Alas

CafeTran Trainer — Fri, 27 Dec 2024 11:27:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Alas

[quote]xulihang wrote:

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:

Hello,

Are you familiar with [url removed]

Do you think that it would be possible to leave all B4J parts behind and port the pure BASIC to XOJO? Just asking ... [/quote]

You can try to port the code for some functions like sentence segmentation to Xojo's BASIC.

It requires a lot of work. [/quote]

That's too bad! It would be a lot of fun to explore your code in Xojo (or a similar tool). I'm not familiar with all that Git stuff, and I'm not looking for another Java tool (I already have a very good one).

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Port to Xojo

xulihang — Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:50:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: Port to Xojo

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:

Hello,

Are you familiar with [url removed]

Do you think that it would be possible to leave all B4J parts behind and port the pure BASIC to XOJO? Just asking ... [/quote]

You can try to port the code for some functions like sentence segmentation to Xojo's BASIC.

It requires a lot of work.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Language Tool

xulihang — Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:47:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: Language Tool

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:
Why are the LT messages in Italian? Can I change it to English?
[/quote]

For languages other than English and Chinese, it uses auto detection: [url removed] #L23-L29

So it may misdetect the language.

More about Language Tool's API: [url removed]

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | XOJO

CafeTran Trainer — Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:41:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: XOJO

Hello,

Are you familiar with [url removed]

Do you think that it would be possible to leave all B4J parts behind and port the pure BASIC to XOJO? Just asking ...

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Italian messages

CafeTran Trainer — Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:39:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Italian messages

Hi,

Why are the LT messages in Italian? Can I change it to English?

[url removed]

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | B4J

CafeTran Trainer — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:06:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: B4J

[quote]xulihang wrote:

You can start by writing a plugin following this guide: [url removed]

My major focus has been shifted to ImageTrans and this guide is for ImageTrans, but the basic process is the same. [/quote]

Hi @Xulihang, good to see you're still here. Thanks for your reply. The BASIC on the page you linked to looks familiar to a VBA user :). This makes it even more attractive to dive into the code of your application.

First I had to understand what B4J is. I found this: [url removed] It's my understanding that B4J is a layer between (a kind of BASIC) and your OS via Java.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | BasicCAT's code

xulihang — Sun, 22 Dec 2024 11:21:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: BasicCAT's code

[quote]

@xulihang: I hope you are still reading here. Can you give some instructions (or point to a YouTube or other resource) on how to get started with viewing the BASIC code?

[Edited at 2024-12-21 21:00 GMT] [/quote]

You can start by writing a plugin following this guide: [url removed]

My major focus has been shifted to ImageTrans and this guide is for ImageTrans, but the basic process is the same.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Machine Translation

Milan Condak — Sat, 21 Dec 2024 22:10:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: Milan Condak
Post title: Machine Translation

Last MT plugin was from year 2020.
Now (2024):
poFilter Plugin was updated; the new are: deeplMTPlugin, yandexMTPlugin, geminiMTPlugin and;
From 2023 was added: chat GPTMTPlugin and for local opus MTPlugin (instead of fiskmoMTPlugin).
I did not tested it yet.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Thanks

CafeTran Trainer — Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:18:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Thanks

[quote]xulihang wrote:

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:

[quote]Click “File”->”New”, choose “en to zh” to create English to Chinese projects and “zh to en” to create Chinese to English projects. [/quote]

Do you support other languages? [/quote]

No. I do not know other languages and by focusing on one language pair, I can add more functions to it. Like Stanford CoreNLP only supports Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Spanish and Germany.

But it will try to support more languages as for most languages, I think the differences lie in segmentation rules and whether there is space between words. [/quote]

I have just translated a demo project EN > NL. So you have obviously added more languages.

@xulihang: I hope you are still reading here. Can you give some instructions (or point to a YouTube or other resource) on how to get started with viewing the BASIC code?

[Edited at 2024-12-21 21:00 GMT]

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Elementary

CafeTran Trainer — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 06:22:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Elementary

[quote]Mario Cerutti wrote:

And may I say that it's not so basic after all?[/quote]

How about: It’s elementary, dear Mario?

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Multi-language dictionaries

Mario Cerutti — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 12:39:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: Mario Cerutti
Post title: Multi-language dictionaries

[quote]xulihang wrote:
I may add this feature in the future and enhance cross projects TMs and terms mangements as well. [/quote]
Many thanks Xu,

I'll keep coming back to your website from time to time to see how BasicCAT further develops on this aspect, because I think it deserves much attention. And may I say that it's not so basic after all?

[Edited at 2021-01-02 12:42 GMT]

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Currently, not multi-language

xulihang — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 08:18:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: Currently, not multi-language

[quote]Mario Cerutti wrote:

Hello Xu,

I have read through the your documentation and it seems that BasicCAT dictionaries are not multi-language, that is it's not possible to enter two-language target terms for one source term and to display them all regardless of the source term language, and for any source language set (I translate from Japanese and English to Italian and would like to use one single, three-language dictionary).

Would you please confirm?

Thank you! [/quote]

BasicCAT does not support multi-language projects right now. The translation memory and term databases are designed for one language pair. It will not be difficult to implement this though. I have an onlline TM search tool which supports multi-language. I may add this feature in the future and enhance cross projects TMs and terms mangements as well.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Multi-language dictionaries?

Mario Cerutti — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 05:53:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: Mario Cerutti
Post title: Multi-language dictionaries?

Hello Xu,

I have read through your BasicCAT documentation and it seems dictionaries are not multi-language, that is it's not possible to enter two-language target terms for one source term and to display them all regardless of the source term language, and for any source language set (I translate from Japanese and English to Italian and it would be great if one single, three-language dictionary could be used).

Would you please confirm?

Thank you!

[Edited at 2021-01-02 12:42 GMT]

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Grats!

Tiberiu Leon — Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:14:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: Tiberiu Leon
Post title: Grats!

I would like to congratulate you for your efforts and for releasing this as open source.
I installed the program a couple of days ago and tested it a while. The program is responsive, integrates some useful services and I encountered no obvious bugs. Keep up the good work and thank you for making your efforts public.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Creating BasicCAT is a better option in terms of academic purpose, price and so on

xulihang — Sat, 24 Nov 2018 15:23:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: Creating BasicCAT is a better option in terms of academic purpose, price and so on

[quote]DZiW wrote:

Hello Xu. Could you tell us a little more: which CATs you use, what you didn't like, why decided to make your own tool with what ideas and benefits in mind and so on?

I mean one thing is always at the expense of the others. Say, the Trados team invents all those bloating bells and whistles to pretend keeping the lead while adding to the cost; WFC heavily relies on MS Office; OmegaT requires Java to run cross-platform, slow cloud services make translators rather vulnerable and dependent, and so on. Why BasicCAT?

Sure, I did check basic/advanced features, yet still... Okapi or free Felix CAT for DOCX files? You must be kidding! However, while combining different free projects for achieving the same goal may look promising (especially weighting the fuzzy Levenshtein distance with LanguageTool and Stanford CoreNLP), such a HUB makes the app rather 'multivendor'.

Therefore, what benefits BasicCAT could provide to both newbie translators and those experienced with Trados, WordFast, DejaVu, or MemoQ? (BTW: Why no Youtube video yet?)

TY [/quote]

Thanks for your opinions. To answer your question, I have to give a brief introduction of myself. I am a graduate student majoring CAT in Peking University of China. I just finished an intern in a publishing house doing translating jobs. They do not use CAT tools and it is not easy to promote these tools . Foreign CAT tools are not easy to use for Chinese people and the only good Chinese CAT tool SnowmanCAT has limited functions. Another problem is the high price of commercial CAT tools.

I think instead of promoting for CAT companies, why not build a free CAT tool on my own as I am a CAT major student. I can take control of every bit of this tool and add whatever functions I want. I like taking control.

I spent one month making BasicCAT to support IDML files to meet my needs, which will shows fewer tags and can convert English fontstyle to Chinese fontsyle. Microsoft office's openxml is complicated. I do not have enough time and I do not have to translate word files for now. So leveraging other tools is a good option.

I am a fan of open source and would like to share the inside and out of BasicCAT with others. So I make it open source. OmegaT is an excellent project but too old. I am very familiar with OmegaT and designed BasicCAT's search and replace based on its design. I also learned SRX algorithm from its code. I think working with other open source projects not only saves works, but also helps each other grow.

BasicCAT is cross-platform as it runs on JVM. It is written in B4J, an very handy tool to use. I think it is also suitable for training CAT major students.

As a Chinese saying goes, "To do a good job one must first sharpen one's tools." I am a part-time translator as well as a programmer. So I will prefer to sharpen my own tools.

I have to main two languages versions, so no youtube for now but only Chinese videos on bilibili.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Only English and Chinese are supported for now

xulihang — Sat, 24 Nov 2018 14:05:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: Only English and Chinese are supported for now

[quote]Hans Lenting wrote:

[quote]Click “File”->”New”, choose “en to zh” to create English to Chinese projects and “zh to en” to create Chinese to English projects. [/quote]

Do you support other languages? [/quote]

No. I do not know other languages and by focusing on one language pair, I can add more functions to it. Like Stanford CoreNLP only supports Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Spanish and Germany.

But it will try to support more languages as for most languages, I think the differences lie in segmentation rules and whether there is space between words.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Other languages supported?

CafeTran Trainer — Sat, 24 Nov 2018 12:38:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: CafeTran Trainer
Post title: Other languages supported?

[quote]Click “File”->”New”, choose “en to zh” to create English to Chinese projects and “zh to en” to create Chinese to English projects. [/quote]

Do you support other languages?

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | BasicCAT is started from scratch

xulihang — Sat, 24 Nov 2018 02:22:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang
Post title: BasicCAT is started from scratch

BasicCAT uses B4J as its programming tool and the code is written from scratch. I did learn how to make an SRX algorithm by viewing OmegaT's source code and this [url removed] java library.

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | Very interesting, thanks!

Michael Beijer — Fri, 23 Nov 2018 22:10:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: Michael Beijer
Post title: Very interesting, thanks!

Hi xulihang,

Very interesting, thanks! I will definitely be playing around with it and report back here.

I haven't had much time yet and so only installed it (x64, Win10) and did a quick test. It seems to have some interesting ideas.

Are you the developer? I noticed that it is open source. Is it based on, or does it borrow any code from, any of the other CAT tools, such as:

• OmegaT ( [url removed] )
• DGT-OmegaT ( [url removed] )
• Autshumato ( [url removed] )
• Benten ( [url removed] )
• Heartsome Suite ( [url removed] )
• Poedit ( [url removed] )
• Silvestris Laboratory programs ( [url removed] )

???

Michael

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software | BasicCAT for basic people?

DZiW (X) — Fri, 23 Nov 2018 10:11:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: DZiW (X)
Post title: BasicCAT for basic people?

Hello Xu. Could you tell us a little more: which CATs you use, what you didn't like, why decided to make your own tool with what ideas and benefits in mind and so on?

I mean one thing is always at the expense of the others. Say, the Trados team invents all those bloating bells and whistles to pretend keeping the lead while adding to the cost; WFC heavily relies on MS Office; OmegaT requires Java to run cross-platform, slow cloud services make translators rather vulnerable and dependent, and so on. Why BasicCAT?

Sure, I did check basic/advanced features, yet still... Okapi or free Felix CAT for DOCX files? You must be kidding! However, while combining different free projects for achieving the same goal may look promising (especially weighting the fuzzy Levenshtein distance with LanguageTool and Stanford CoreNLP), such a HUB makes the app rather 'multivendor'.

Therefore, what benefits BasicCAT could provide to both newbie translators and those experienced with Trados, WordFast, DejaVu, or MemoQ? (BTW: Why no Youtube video yet?)

TY

BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software

xulihang — Wed, 21 Nov 2018 06:21:00 +0000

Forum: CAT Tools Technical Help
Topic: BasicCAT, yet another open source CAT software
Poster: xulihang

BasicCAT is an open source computer-aided translation tool, which aims at providing a simple and useful tool for translators.

It supports translation memory and terminology management like most CAT tools do and it also has cutting-edge interactive machine translation functions.

Visit its homepage: [url removed] to learn more.