Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
bore the brunt of the joke
English answer:
were the butt of the joke OR bore the brunt of the "funny" silences...
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athena22
Aug 15, 2010 22:36
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English term
bore the brunt of the joke
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I'm editing an author who writes:
Women often bore the brunt of the joke as the object of “funny” silences and misunderstandings.
I looked the phrase up using Google, and I got 5K hits, yet it sounds to me as if she is mixing two idiomatic expressions--"bore the brunt of X" (as in carrying the weight of or feeling the impact of) and "were the butt of the joke".
For the latter, one writer on-line explained: "In every form of humor . . . , there's always a target or a victim. The butt of the joke, as we popularly called it, can be a person, an object, an animal, a place or even an idea or a view."
I'm interested in hearing people's opinions of whether "bore the brunt of the joke" should be changed. TIA!
Women often bore the brunt of the joke as the object of “funny” silences and misunderstandings.
I looked the phrase up using Google, and I got 5K hits, yet it sounds to me as if she is mixing two idiomatic expressions--"bore the brunt of X" (as in carrying the weight of or feeling the impact of) and "were the butt of the joke".
For the latter, one writer on-line explained: "In every form of humor . . . , there's always a target or a victim. The butt of the joke, as we popularly called it, can be a person, an object, an animal, a place or even an idea or a view."
I'm interested in hearing people's opinions of whether "bore the brunt of the joke" should be changed. TIA!
Responses
5 +3 | were the butt of the joke/ bore the brunt of the "funny" silences... | athena22 |
4 +1 | bore the brunt of the joke | Jennifer Levey |
References
butt/brunt | Shera Lyn Parpia |
Change log
Aug 20, 2010 21:01: athena22 Created KOG entry
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were the butt of the joke/ bore the brunt of the "funny" silences...
You can be the butt of a joke or bear the brunt of something.
Native speaker and published writer/ editor (US English). Either is how I would say it, but I wouldn't say bore the brunt of the joke. It is, indeed, combining two idioms.
Native speaker and published writer/ editor (US English). Either is how I would say it, but I wouldn't say bore the brunt of the joke. It is, indeed, combining two idioms.
Example sentence:
Women were the butt of the joke...
Women bore the brunt of the "funny" silences...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Shera Lyn Parpia
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agree |
Taña Dalglish
: I agree. I expressed my idea badly and hence I have withdrawn my proposal. See article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982968/posts. What needs to change in the asker's original context is "bear/bore" which is what I should have said!
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agree |
eski
: http://thesaurus.com/browse/brunt
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to everyone for the very helpful discussion!"
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4 hrs
bore the brunt of the joke
Nothing wrong here.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
David Hollywood
: absolutely :)
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disagree |
athena22
: See my note above...
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agree |
Joyce A
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Reference comments
10 hrs
Reference:
butt/brunt
This seems to be a common error.
This is from the link below
A person who is the target of jokers is the butt of their humor (from an old meaning of the word “butt”: target for shooting at). But the object of this joking has to bear the brunt of the mockery (from an old word meaning a sharp blow or attack). A person is never a brunt. The person being attacked receives the brunt of it.
This is from the link below
A person who is the target of jokers is the butt of their humor (from an old meaning of the word “butt”: target for shooting at). But the object of this joking has to bear the brunt of the mockery (from an old word meaning a sharp blow or attack). A person is never a brunt. The person being attacked receives the brunt of it.
Reference:
Discussion
However one can certainly "bear the brunt of a joke." I found this wild-and-interesting example online: Abdera was a city in Thrace, whose inhabitants bore the brunt of dumb-ethnic jokes since at least the days of Cicero in the first century BCE. (The "brunt" is the blow or force and one can interpret some jokes as being pretty unkind, prejudicial, etc. which make them akin to a "hit" or a "blow." Don't you think so, too? :-)