Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Mar 18, 2005 19:48
19 yrs ago
English term
rational filter
English to Japanese
Social Sciences
Philosophy
Philosophy of religion (Christianity)
This mode of response will also help you begin to open up your "rational filter" by which, I believe, we filter out so much of the Truth.
--> I cannot come up with a proper Japanese term to express the cocept of "filter" (both noun and verb) in this of context. Thank you for your help in advance.
--> I cannot come up with a proper Japanese term to express the cocept of "filter" (both noun and verb) in this of context. Thank you for your help in advance.
Proposed translations
(Japanese)
| 1 +1 | please see comment |
cinefil
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| 5 | 合理化のろ過(機構） |
humbird
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| 4 +1 | 理性のフィルター |
kokuritsu
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| 4 | ふるいわけ（る） |
Kyoko Kakeshita
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Proposed translations
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1 day 6 hrs
Selected
please see comment
I had the impression that the author is giving positive attribute on 'rationbal filter'. Then, 'filter out' also has the positive meaning, such as 〈事実･情報などが〉(…に)徐々に流れる[知れ渡る]（ランダムハウス英語辞典)
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Note added at 2 days 7 hrs 35 mins (2005-03-21 03:24:34 GMT)
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「理性の網」「理性と言う網」で良いのではないでしょうか。そしてfilter out the Truthは、キリスト教徒にはおなじみの「漁る」を使い、「真理を漁る」と訳すのはどうでしょう。
「あなたを人間を漁る漁師にしてあげよう。わたしについてきなさい」：イエスがペテロに言った有名な言葉です。
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Note added at 2 days 7 hrs 35 mins (2005-03-21 03:24:34 GMT)
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「理性の網」「理性と言う網」で良いのではないでしょうか。そしてfilter out the Truthは、キリスト教徒にはおなじみの「漁る」を使い、「真理を漁る」と訳すのはどうでしょう。
「あなたを人間を漁る漁師にしてあげよう。わたしについてきなさい」：イエスがペテロに言った有名な言葉です。
Peer comment(s):
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mstkwasa
: It is possible - it depends entirely on the preceding and succeeding sentences. I think the writer is saying that one should "open up" his/her "rational filter" to see the Truth (whatever that may be) which this person hitherto has not done. We shall see.
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| agree |
mnlucht
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thanks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Four points to cinefil-san since he/she has provided me the first response to "理性の網."
But all the answers and comments were helpful. Thank you all."
13 mins
Kyoko Kakeshita
Native in Japanese
College degrees in three majors
Native in: Japanese (Variants: Kansai, Standard-Japan) 
Works in: English to Japanese
ふるいわけ（る）
ろ過するというよりも、ここでは「ふるいわける」が適訳でしょう。
1 hr
合理化のろ過(機構）
Rational filter -- The way I read your sample sentence is that this filter is something that we use to rationalize −合理化する (understand the world around us, that is, to make it understandable based on our own knowlege, experience, etc.).
In doing that we use the filter supposedly built in in our conscious and uncounscious mind. It is one of our defense-mechanism so that we are not overwhelmed by the incoming information. So we use this filter to what be permitted to our own internal world. Therefore, the way I would translate the sentenc would be:
This mode of response will also help you begin to open up your "rational filter" by which, I believe, we filter out so much of the Truth.
この種の応答はまたあなたの(心の中にある）”合理化のろ過機構”を開くことになるでしょう。私は信じるのですが、こうすることによって多くの真実がそれをすり抜けてしまうのです。
Filter as noun and verb is easily found in an ordinary dictionary. But in this case it is a filter we have in our own mind.
In doing that we use the filter supposedly built in in our conscious and uncounscious mind. It is one of our defense-mechanism so that we are not overwhelmed by the incoming information. So we use this filter to what be permitted to our own internal world. Therefore, the way I would translate the sentenc would be:
This mode of response will also help you begin to open up your "rational filter" by which, I believe, we filter out so much of the Truth.
この種の応答はまたあなたの(心の中にある）”合理化のろ過機構”を開くことになるでしょう。私は信じるのですが、こうすることによって多くの真実がそれをすり抜けてしまうのです。
Filter as noun and verb is easily found in an ordinary dictionary. But in this case it is a filter we have in our own mind.
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8 hrs
理性のフィルター
理性のフィルター
“Filter” (noun): フィルター as well as こし器, 濾過器、etc.
“Filter”(verb): 濾過される、透過される、ふるいにかかる（かける）, 濾す、etc.
“Rational filter” is herein supposed to mean 「理性のフィルター」, a widely used term in documents related to philosophy, psychology, and religion. (Google counts 297 hits.)
While I definitely need further context, I’d like to render the given sentence as follows:
またこの種の反応から、いわゆる「理性のフィルター」を使い始めるきっかけが生じるのだが、そうしたフィルターでは真理（or 真実）のかなりの部分がふるいにかけられて排除されてしまうと考えられる。
“Filter” (noun): フィルター as well as こし器, 濾過器、etc.
“Filter”(verb): 濾過される、透過される、ふるいにかかる（かける）, 濾す、etc.
“Rational filter” is herein supposed to mean 「理性のフィルター」, a widely used term in documents related to philosophy, psychology, and religion. (Google counts 297 hits.)
While I definitely need further context, I’d like to render the given sentence as follows:
またこの種の反応から、いわゆる「理性のフィルター」を使い始めるきっかけが生じるのだが、そうしたフィルターでは真理（or 真実）のかなりの部分がふるいにかけられて排除されてしまうと考えられる。
Peer comment(s):
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mstkwasa
: I ain't no philosopher but this sounds the most appropriate suggestion so far. この対応法はこれまで真実の大部分を排除してきた（と思われる）あなたの理性のフィルターを緩めはじめることを支援します。
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Very many thanks.
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Discussion
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