Jun 23, 2006 09:21
17 yrs ago
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French term

une vue de l'esprit

French to English Social Sciences Environment & Ecology Climate change
This sentence is giving me a hard time:

"la très bonne corrélation entre la quantité d’informations circulant dans le monde et la quantité de marchandises transitant sur la planète depuis 150 ans **montre que la dématérialisation de l’économie est une vue de l’esprit**"

Suggestions for the part between the ** much appreciated...
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Jun 23, 2006 10:47: NancyLynn changed "Term asked" from "en vue de l\'esprit" to "une vue de l\'esprit"

Discussion

Amanda Grey (asker) Jun 23, 2006:
Apologies "une vue de l'esprit"
Julie Barber Jun 23, 2006:
en vue or une vue? thanks

Proposed translations

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is all in the mind

surely this is all they mean - KIS
Peer comment(s):

agree Mark Nathan
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agree df49f (X) : yes, that's all it means, as in mental construct//expérience & compétence font qu'on ne va plus chercher midi à 14 h! ;-)//comme en politique: surtout ne pas laisser s'imposer la dictature de la majorité (qui est loin d'avoir toujours raison)!!
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when so many people think something else you begin to doubt yourself !// L'expérience je l'ai; la compétence: je laisse juger les autres. Mais malgré tout, je doute parfois face à une majorité qui insiste sur des solutions qui ne sont pas bonnes.....
agree Julie Barber : yep I'll go along with this rather than my own!
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agree Alison Jenner : nicely put
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agree mportal
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agree Aisha Maniar
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French term (edited): ... vue de l'esprit

indicates/shows that the dematerialization of the economy is a creation of the mind

Baumol's disease and dematerialization of the economy - [ Traduire cette page ]Downloadable ! Author(s): Kander, Astrid. 2005 Abstract: No abstract is available for this item.
ideas.repec.org/a/eee/ecolec/v55y2005i1p119-130.html - 8k - En cache - Pages similaires


[PDF] The Board of ListenersFormat de fichier: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Version HTML
Studies show that environmental benefits of this "dematerialization" of the economy. extend back to the beginning of the production cycle. ...
www.factor10-institute.org/pdf/F10CStatm.pdf - Pages similaires


[PDF] The role of service-orientation and a time-use rebound-effect in ...Format de fichier: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Version HTML
dematerialization of the economy are conceptualisations of changes that. could lead to a significant change in the materials-use at the macro level. ...
www.oikos-stiftung.unisg.ch/academy2000/jalas1.pdf - Pages similaires


Jean-Marc Jancovici : climate change - Is economic growth "making ... - [ Traduire cette page ]What can be expected from the "dematerialization" of the economy ? It is quite frequent to hear, however, that the "dematerialization" of the economy will ...
www.manicore.com/anglais/ documentation_a/greenhouse/growth.html -



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Note added at 22 mins (2006-06-23 09:43:11 GMT)
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creation of the mind Source

vue de l'esprit Source FÉM

EX – Pareille scène n'est pas une vue
de l'esprit.
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French term (edited): en vue de l'esprit

personal perception

is a personal perception

I don't think that they mean a product of the imagination but rather it's about how you perceive it....
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French term (edited): en vue de l'esprit

a sensible position

There is a correlation - not an inverse proportion. The more information, the more stuff.

"shows clearly that what really makes our economies go is not mere commodities; it is an increase in the sharing of minds"

Again:

"indicates clearly that economics is more than a matter of commodities; a reduced reliance on commodities is a reasonable position"

These are quasi-interpretations, I know...but you must not say "dematerialization" in English. It's that that requires circumlocution. "esprit" means mind as opposed to physical quantities. The argument probably has to do with the world after we're no longer allowed to waste and destroy it.



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Note added at 47 mins (2006-06-23 10:08:22 GMT)
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Euro-English is a good thing, insofar as it forms part of the necessary harmonisation of bureaucratic expressions, part of the harmonisation of pan-European administration. But when it cuts against the grain of plain speech about important things - when it has no legal or administrative necessity supporting it - then it is a disease that will eventually paralyze the body that produces it.
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disagree df49f (X) : contre-sens - voir réponse de CMJ ci-dessous
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a fancy/ fanciful view

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a purely theoretical view

Just another way of saying it
Peer comment(s):

agree Narasimhan Raghavan : This suits my context. "Il faut bien noter que ce schéma réactionnel est une vue de l’esprit dans la mesure où les biomasses représentent en fait une flore d’espèces différentes." Thanks.
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Proves that the dematerialization of the economy is a mindset

Montrer goes with correlation. mindset goes with depuis 150 ans. I was tempted to translate is as “…is just a question of mindset”.
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