Dec 3, 2007 07:39
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French term
selon le gouvernement (contexte)
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Qu'est-ce qui est selon le gouvernement? La croissance du PIB? Ou l'inflation? Je suis vraiment mal reveillee ce matin!
Mais, malgré une croissance de 6 % du PIB en 2007, selon le gouvernement, une inflation attendue à la baisse à 2,5 %, le triplement des investissements directs étrangers, « la Macédoine n'est pas économiquement prête pour rejoindre l'Union », reconnaît le ministre des finances, Trajko Slaveski.
Mais, malgré une croissance de 6 % du PIB en 2007, selon le gouvernement, une inflation attendue à la baisse à 2,5 %, le triplement des investissements directs étrangers, « la Macédoine n'est pas économiquement prête pour rejoindre l'Union », reconnaît le ministre des finances, Trajko Slaveski.
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despite government figures indicating 6% GDP growth in 2007, a rate of inflation ... and a threefold increase in...
It's somewhat ambiguous in French (poorly written). Turning the sentence round as above preserves an equivalent level of ambiguity in English, I think!
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Note added at 49 mins (2007-12-03 08:28:33 GMT)
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NewCal: I concede that we do not know for a fact that the 6% was a figure calculated by the government and not, for instance, a statistical agency which they use to do their number-crunching for them. However, there is no doubt in my mind that the government is quoting this figure, i.e. it is the official line. I think the clearest and simplest way of expressing in English what is meant by the French here is to say "government figures".
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-12-03 08:48:00 GMT)
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NewCal: re your note on my note to your answer :)
I don't understand your problem with my explanation. I disagree with your assertion that "The first part of the sentence is not part of the government statement", and if this *were* the case then to my mind an unambiguous way of putting this would be:
"malgré une croissance de 6 % du PIB en 2007, et, selon le gouvernement, une inflation attendue à la baisse à 2,5 %...". Placing "selon le gouvernement" in second place without the (inelegant) "et" does not remove the first part of the sentence from the scope of this clause.
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re: your amended note. I agree it's only my opinion :). It's not founded on grammatical rules in absolutum because the grammar is poor in the original, hence the difficulty in the first place.
It's somewhat ambiguous in French (poorly written). Turning the sentence round as above preserves an equivalent level of ambiguity in English, I think!
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Note added at 49 mins (2007-12-03 08:28:33 GMT)
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NewCal: I concede that we do not know for a fact that the 6% was a figure calculated by the government and not, for instance, a statistical agency which they use to do their number-crunching for them. However, there is no doubt in my mind that the government is quoting this figure, i.e. it is the official line. I think the clearest and simplest way of expressing in English what is meant by the French here is to say "government figures".
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-12-03 08:48:00 GMT)
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NewCal: re your note on my note to your answer :)
I don't understand your problem with my explanation. I disagree with your assertion that "The first part of the sentence is not part of the government statement", and if this *were* the case then to my mind an unambiguous way of putting this would be:
"malgré une croissance de 6 % du PIB en 2007, et, selon le gouvernement, une inflation attendue à la baisse à 2,5 %...". Placing "selon le gouvernement" in second place without the (inelegant) "et" does not remove the first part of the sentence from the scope of this clause.
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-12-03 08:49:56 GMT)
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re: your amended note. I agree it's only my opinion :). It's not founded on grammatical rules in absolutum because the grammar is poor in the original, hence the difficulty in the first place.
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according to / as reported by the Government
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according to the government a decrease of the inflation rate by 2.5% is expected..
The first part of the sentence is not part of the government statement it would have otherwise read;
Selon le gouvernement, malgré une croissance de 6% du PIB en 2007, un inflation attendue à la baisse.... etc.
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Note added at 38 mins (2007-12-03 08:17:32 GMT)
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"une inflation" bien sûr.
Selon le gouvernement, malgré une croissance de 6% du PIB en 2007, un inflation attendue à la baisse.... etc.
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Note added at 38 mins (2007-12-03 08:17:32 GMT)
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"une inflation" bien sûr.
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David BUICK
: if the GDP figures were not being quoted by the government the sentence would read "...2007 *ET*, selon le gouvernement... NewCal: see note in my answer
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Any French native as well as my "Bescherelle" know that the "et" would not mean any such thing. As you say it it is your opinion only which does not rely on French gramatical rules.
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Anne de Freyman (X)
: Agree 100% with Eutychus. It is a list of 3 things explaining the situation in Macedonia. The "selon..." refers undoubtedly to the 6%GDP increase which govts have a tendency to inflate!
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as per the government
I would put it this way.
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the government's claim of
Despite the government's claim of a 6% GDP growth, an expected 2.5% drop in inflation etc....
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