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Feb 12, 2009 11:35
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Spanish term

nacionalidad no de origen

Spanish to English Social Sciences Government / Politics MAEC
- En el periodo desde el 29 de diciembre de 2008 al 31 de enero de 2009, se han presentado 8.678 expedientes para el apartado 1) de la Disposición Adicional 7ª de la Ley, correspondientes a hijos; 1.085 correspondientes a nietos del exilio (apartado 2) y 352 de ciudadanos que están utilizando la Ley para pasar de nacionalidad no de origen a nacionalidad de origen (10.115 expedientes presentados en total).

Thanks in advance.

Discussion

Kate Major Patience (asker) Feb 23, 2009:
Hi everyone, sorry to close this without grading, but I did find this somewhere else in the end: http://leymemoria.mjusticia.es/paginas/en/descendientes.html
Which goes with "of origin" and "not of origin", which was later approved for this article: http://www.maec.es/en/MenuPpal/Actualidad/Notas de Prensa/Pa... by the proofreader. I think it works. Thanks everyone for your help. You came up with some great alternatives. Always appreciated. Have a nice week. :)

Proposed translations

5 mins

non- national

a possibility
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alien status

HTH
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una nacionalidad adoptada

born here, went there, want back
Example sentence:

She was born in Burgos but was taken to Russia as a baby. Now, at 92, she wants to abandon her adopted nationality as she feels "Spanish to the core".

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foreign nationality

original nationality vs foreign nationality
Peer comment(s):

disagree Carlos Segura : Sorry, they are not foreign nationals, they are Spanish nationals. I believe here we have "naturalised nationality vs nationality of origin".
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foreign citizens (and change the sentence)

I would change the sentence to: ... and 352 foreign citizens who are making use of the Law to acquire the Spanish(?) nationality

Good luck with it, Kate!
Peer comment(s):

disagree Carlos Segura : Sorry, they are not foreign nationals, they are Spanish nationals. // Thanks, Peter! This is largely symbolic (or self-perpetuating need for funcionarios) Same rights with nationality of origin as with naturalized nationality for Spanish nationals.
1 hr
Point taken, Carlos! I was under the impression that a difference in rights/privileges for naturalized people is against European guidelines.// Thanks for enlightening me, Carlos!
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nationality not by birth / acquired nationality

Dado que se trata de contraponer nacionalidad no de origen con nacionalidad de origen, creo que estas dos opciones pueden servir.

pasar de nacionalidad no de origen a nacionalidad de origen = from nationality not by birth / acquired nationality to nationality of origin / nationality by birth
Peer comment(s):

agree María T. Vargas : In Spain grandchildren of Spaniards were granted the Spanish nationality with favoured conditions as against those for other foreigners. So I'd use your first option rather than "foreigners".
17 mins
Thank you, María
agree Wil Hardman (X) : first option 'citizenship/nationality otherwise than by birth'. http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/aboutci...
1 hr
Great, thanks for the link
agree Steven Huddleston : I like "acquired", simple and clear.
4 hrs
Thanks for your comment
agree Louise Souter (X)
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agree Ronald van der Linden (X)
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naturalized / naturalised nationality

Naturalized nationality: nationality acquired by a foreign national

nacionalidad no de origen - nacionalidad de origen : both categories here refer to Spanish nationals, but this is about naturilized citizens who want their Spanish nationality to be recognized as being the "nationality of origin" (by virtue of place of birth, family...), or in other words, they want to be recognized as having been Spanish nationals all along.

It is not "foreign/alien nationality" as proposed by some collleagues.
Peer comment(s):

agree Kathryn Litherland : Yes, I think it's talking about people petitioning to be reclassified from naturalized citizens to citizens by birth
18 mins
Yes. Many thanks!
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