Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
augmenter le bénéfice par vos structures
English translation:
increase profits through your organisational structure
Added to glossary by
B D Finch
Aug 8, 2016 10:32
7 yrs ago
French term
United Kingdom
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Native in: English (Variants: South African, British, Scottish, Irish, Singaporean, UK) 
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Romanian to English, and 2 more.
augmenter le bénéfice par vos structures
French to English
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This section is describing the benefits of an advisory service offered for "les personnes fortunées".
I am not sure how exactly to read this phrase, is it saying "increase your profits by your structure/framework"? I think I need help with rephrasing here. Context reads (this phrase is at bottom):
ENTREPRISE COMPTE BANCAIRE:
La liberté commerciale de votre entreprise grâce à des solutions avec des frais bancaires réduits.
PRIVÉE COMPTE BANCAIRE:
Diversifiez vos actifs dans des banques de grande réputation, faite confiance aux praticiens.
ENTREPRISE GESTION FISCALE:
Les meilleures pratiques de business intelligence pour augmenter le bénéfice par vos structures.
I am not sure how exactly to read this phrase, is it saying "increase your profits by your structure/framework"? I think I need help with rephrasing here. Context reads (this phrase is at bottom):
ENTREPRISE COMPTE BANCAIRE:
La liberté commerciale de votre entreprise grâce à des solutions avec des frais bancaires réduits.
PRIVÉE COMPTE BANCAIRE:
Diversifiez vos actifs dans des banques de grande réputation, faite confiance aux praticiens.
ENTREPRISE GESTION FISCALE:
Les meilleures pratiques de business intelligence pour augmenter le bénéfice par vos structures.
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increase profits through your organisational structure
http://www.yearling.fr/home.php
"Ce parcours professionnel, où prédominait le conseil aux Responsables de Service, me permet aujourd’hui d’intervenir dans vos opérations de recrutement en véritable partenaire; analyser avec vous vos structures, cerner plus facilement vos besoins, cibler plus précisément l’adaptabilité des profils aux postes à pourvoir et à leur environnement, enfin, vous économiser en explications et formalisme. "
http://www.cabinetlexia.com/fre/domaines/index.htm?PRMC_NUM=...
"Constitution et vie de votre entreprise (réflexion sur le choix de vos structures, rédaction de vos statuts et des autres conventions avec vos associés, résolution de vos litiges entre associés, rédaction et suivi de vos assemblées générales, opérations de financement de l'activité, statut des dirigeants, cessation de votre activité.......) "
http://goo.gl/EhPPSV
" Dès la rentrée du mois de septembre, 4 modules indépendants d’une durée de 2 jours seront proposés dans le but d’améliorer et d’optimiser la gestion économique de vos structures (centre équestre, élevage, structure agricole).
"Cette formation est prise en charge à 100% pour les éleveurs et dirigeants de structures équestre relevant du VIVEA. Il est possible également d’être financé par d’autres OPCA dans le cadre de la formation professionnelle continue."
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Or: through how your business is organised/structured
"Ce parcours professionnel, où prédominait le conseil aux Responsables de Service, me permet aujourd’hui d’intervenir dans vos opérations de recrutement en véritable partenaire; analyser avec vous vos structures, cerner plus facilement vos besoins, cibler plus précisément l’adaptabilité des profils aux postes à pourvoir et à leur environnement, enfin, vous économiser en explications et formalisme. "
http://www.cabinetlexia.com/fre/domaines/index.htm?PRMC_NUM=...
"Constitution et vie de votre entreprise (réflexion sur le choix de vos structures, rédaction de vos statuts et des autres conventions avec vos associés, résolution de vos litiges entre associés, rédaction et suivi de vos assemblées générales, opérations de financement de l'activité, statut des dirigeants, cessation de votre activité.......) "
http://goo.gl/EhPPSV
" Dès la rentrée du mois de septembre, 4 modules indépendants d’une durée de 2 jours seront proposés dans le but d’améliorer et d’optimiser la gestion économique de vos structures (centre équestre, élevage, structure agricole).
"Cette formation est prise en charge à 100% pour les éleveurs et dirigeants de structures équestre relevant du VIVEA. Il est possible également d’être financé par d’autres OPCA dans le cadre de la formation professionnelle continue."
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Or: through how your business is organised/structured
Peer comment(s):
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Didier Fourcot
: Better and makes more sense than source
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Thanks Didier
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Daryo
: what would be link with GESTION FISCALE? Make more profit so you can pay more taxes?// well that's the legal structure not the same as the organisational structure
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No, on the contrary: structure your business so that you pay less in taxes and, thereby, increase your profits. Not that I advocate any such thing!
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Adrian MM. (X)
: - even enhance profits....
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Thanks Adrian. Yes, that's an option.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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Francois Boye
United States
United States
Native in French
Specializes in field
United States
An economic geek with social skills
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, French to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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102
increase the profits generated by the departments of your organis(z)ation
'structures' is plural; so it does not relate to the organis(z)ation as a whole. It relates to the structures that are the components of an organization. In management parlance, those components are called departments. Each of them takes care of one function of a company.
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https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=departments and functio...
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https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=departments and functio...
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Daryo
: what would be link with GESTION FISCALE?
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'les meilleures pratiques de business intelligence' would do the trick.
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increase profits by adapting/managing your legal structure
clue:
ENTREPRISE GESTION FISCALE:
GESTION FISCALE = translation of this euphemism in plain-speak: rearrange your legal structure in a way to minimise your taxes i.e. walking as close as possible on the edge between tax avoidance (legal) and tax evasion (illegal);
one garden variety case: a company operating in a high taxation country, while being domiciled in a tax haven (Amazon, Starbucks, Google etc in UK - remember all the fuss from few months ago?)
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"Les meilleures pratiques de business intelligence" here: make the best possible use of all information available that could be useful to "manage your taxes"
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two aspects of the same thing but VERY far from being even similar concepts:
organisational structure = how the business is organised i.e. admin / production units / sales department / R&D units etc
legal structure = the legal "label" you put on the business (or parts of it if and when there is any advantage to it)
to give an example you can have 3 production units in 3 towns - whether you make each of them a separate legal entity or make them just "organisational units" of only one and same legal entity makes precious little difference in the "organisational structure" of the business, but a noticeable difference in the "legal structure"
Organizational structure
An organizational structure defines how activities such as task allocation, coordination and supervision are directed toward the achievement of organizational aims. ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_structure
Compare with https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=legal structure of a busin...
What has an impact on the taxation is the legal structure - exactly the same activity can be taxed very differently depending on what legal label you stick on it.
ENTREPRISE GESTION FISCALE:
GESTION FISCALE = translation of this euphemism in plain-speak: rearrange your legal structure in a way to minimise your taxes i.e. walking as close as possible on the edge between tax avoidance (legal) and tax evasion (illegal);
one garden variety case: a company operating in a high taxation country, while being domiciled in a tax haven (Amazon, Starbucks, Google etc in UK - remember all the fuss from few months ago?)
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Note added at 3 hrs (2016-08-08 13:50:48 GMT)
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"Les meilleures pratiques de business intelligence" here: make the best possible use of all information available that could be useful to "manage your taxes"
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Note added at 14 hrs (2016-08-09 00:42:35 GMT)
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two aspects of the same thing but VERY far from being even similar concepts:
organisational structure = how the business is organised i.e. admin / production units / sales department / R&D units etc
legal structure = the legal "label" you put on the business (or parts of it if and when there is any advantage to it)
to give an example you can have 3 production units in 3 towns - whether you make each of them a separate legal entity or make them just "organisational units" of only one and same legal entity makes precious little difference in the "organisational structure" of the business, but a noticeable difference in the "legal structure"
Organizational structure
An organizational structure defines how activities such as task allocation, coordination and supervision are directed toward the achievement of organizational aims. ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_structure
Compare with https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=legal structure of a busin...
What has an impact on the taxation is the legal structure - exactly the same activity can be taxed very differently depending on what legal label you stick on it.
Peer comment(s):
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B D Finch
: That's actually one of the things I was referring to in my answer.// See my second reference. However, there is nothing restricting the term in question to legal structures, so a more inclusive translation is needed.
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your answer has nothing to do with the "legal" structure of the business
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Francois Boye
: what about the plural 'structures'? Why not 'tax organisation' instead of 'legal organisation'? Did Asker confirm your interpretation?
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Adrian MM. (X)
: it would be tax planning schemes, if anything.
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yes, "tax planning schemes" would be another [blunt] name for it, but it's usually advertised using all sorts of euphemisms // "advising you on managing your legal structure" would be one of them, no?
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Jo Durning
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
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16
Improve your profits through structuring your investments
Given the context of advice for wealthy individuals, it is more likely to be the investment that is structured than the organisation.
The web reference is one of many which comes up by Googling 'structuring investments'
The web reference is one of many which comes up by Googling 'structuring investments'
Discussion
It sounds like your client is expecting miracles and/or not providing you with the whole story. Either that or the client actually meant "as if it had been iitially written in English". That would make sens, particularly with what follows :"not just word by word translation".
In any event, you can only do the best with what has been provided, which does look like machine translation. I think you should not hesitate to contact the client to clarify what he/she thinks the original means.
In your position, I would insist on "proper" French first and make it clear that I cannot guarantee that the translation will be identical to the original English.
"Please note, that translation should be produced as it was initially written in English, not just word by word translation."
looks like machine translation from an other language and "entreprise compte bancaire" above has an explanation that should rather match "compte bancare d'entreprise"?