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Jun 9, 2017 14:22
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French term

ligne d'indication

French to English Tech/Engineering Engineering (general) Technical drawing (AutoCAD)
In a document describing various design procedures using an OEM application based on an AutoCAD engine.

It is explained that this is a little line that may or may not be shown linking an explanatory legend to the object in the drawing it refers to; I can exactly visualize what sort of thing it is, from my training 45-odd years ago in good, old-fashioned Technical Drawing (with a 4H pencil and a T-square!) — but I'm blowed if I can remember the proper name for it!

As this application is very closely connected with AutoCAD and uses a lot of AutoCAD terminology, I suspect (without being certain) that this is an 'official' AutoCAD term — but I have not had a great deal of success tracking it down on various 'Net resources discussing AutoCAD, and the few examples I have found don't seem on the face of it to be talking about the same thing at all.

Does anyone have AutoCAD or is at least familiar with it who could advise me, please? Or just anyone with specific engineering drawing experience?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 leader
References
(callout) leader line
Change log

Jun 15, 2017 23:47: Yolanda Broad changed "Term asked" from "ligne d\\\'indication" to "ligne d\'indication "

Discussion

Tony M (asker) Jun 14, 2017:
@ Claude-Andrew Thanks a lot for that ref., particularly helpful because of the illustration. My document is not specifically talking about the 'landing line' part, but the whole of the 'leader line'. It's great to have the extra terminology, though, as I'll bet it is going to crop up sooner or later in this ongoing series of documents.
Tony M (asker) Jun 14, 2017:
@ Phil I don't really think any more context would be helpful; the sentences in which it appears merely explain what it is, as I have described; the point being that while I could easily fudge round it in the ways you suggest, here I was looking for the specific AutoCAD terminology.
claude-andrew Jun 11, 2017:
Is this it? Landing line https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore...
philgoddard Jun 9, 2017:
I could only find one hit in an AutoCAD context, which suggests it's not an "official" term, and I would translate it as "indicator line":
http://help.autodesk.com/view/ACD/2016/FRA/?guid=GUID-7C281B...
But I still think we need the French context.
philgoddard Jun 9, 2017:
Hi Tony Could we have the context, please?
Can't you just say "line", or "line linking the legend to the object"?

Proposed translations

+1
1 hr
French term (edited): ligne d\'indication
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leader

"leader" is the term I recall from the days when I was doing tech drawing 'O' and 'A' levels.

And it's still the terms today, as shown here (from the CAD horses mouth):


https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-architecture/...

Use this procedure to add a multiline text object with a single leader that points to any point you specify in the drawing area. Leaders are drawn in the same manner as polylines: you specify two points to insert a straight line segment. ... On the Anno

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-09 15:57:48 GMT)
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Definition of "leader" from the help file on AutoSketch (a cut-down version of AutoCAD):

Leader:
Leaders are notes that reference specific points in a drawing. Unlike other dimensions, leaders do not display a measurement. They do, however, reflect certain settings in the Dimension Format dialog box. When you add a leader, AutoSketch does not add a leader entity to the drawing. Instead, it adds separate polylines, markers, and text entities. This makes it easy to edit a leader after creation.

Copyright 1997 AutoDesk, Inc.

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-06-09 16:18:51 GMT)
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FWIW, I have the French-language User Guide for AutoSketch in front of me, and it uses indicateur for what Tony's ST refers to as a ligne d'indication. That's probably due to the OEM manufacturer not bothering (or wanting) to adhere to the usual conventions.
Note from asker:
Thanks, Robin! This was my own recollection too, but of course I'm more familiar with it these days in a typographic context, so wasn't sure if my memory was playing tricks with me!
Peer comment(s):
agree mrrafe
7 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks a lot, the various refs. provided, especially Claude Andrew's with its illustration, confirm that 'leader (line)' is indeed the term I was looking for, and this is what I used."

Reference comments

16 hrs
Reference:

(callout) leader line

I was thinking "callout line", but this ref confirms "leader line"

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Note added at 16 hrs (2017-06-10 06:39:39 GMT)
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full URL: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-utility-desig...
Reference:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-utility-design/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2017/ENU/UtilityDesign-Help/files/GUID-

Note from asker:
Thanks, David, that's brilliant! 'callout' was the other term that sprang into my own mind, so I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that, even though it seems that 'leader' is probably the term I need here.
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