Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
исходная универсальная целостность
English translation:
basic universal integrity
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Susan Welsh
Nov 27, 2020 22:27
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Russian term
исходная универсальная целостность
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Psychology
philosophy
From a book on "activity theory":
Работы Гегеля и Маркса утвердили рядом с традиционным пониманием деятельности другое, на наш взгляд, более глубокое. Согласно ему, человеческая социальная деятельность должна рассматриваться не как атрибут отдельного человека, а как **исходная универсальная целостность,** значительно более широкая, чем он сам. Не отдельные индивиды тогда создают и производят деятельность, а наоборот, она сама "захватывает" их и заставляет вести себя определенным образом.
primary/original universal integrity?
Doesn't make much sense to me.
Thanks in advance.
Работы Гегеля и Маркса утвердили рядом с традиционным пониманием деятельности другое, на наш взгляд, более глубокое. Согласно ему, человеческая социальная деятельность должна рассматриваться не как атрибут отдельного человека, а как **исходная универсальная целостность,** значительно более широкая, чем он сам. Не отдельные индивиды тогда создают и производят деятельность, а наоборот, она сама "захватывает" их и заставляет вести себя определенным образом.
primary/original universal integrity?
Doesn't make much sense to me.
Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
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3 | initial universal integrity | Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. |
2 | initial universal continuity | Lesia Kutsenko |
2 | basic yet universal holism | IrinaN |
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initial universal integrity
Apparently, the answer to the question asked above is more complicated than it seems to be. Parallel with conventional viewpoints, another, more profound perception of what is activity has been established. According to the latter, the human activity should be treated not as an attribute of individual, but as an initial universal integrity, which is more comprehensive than “individuals” themselves: “activity is not initiated and produced by the individuals; on the contrary, it involves them, and force them to behave in a certain manner”
https://www.witpress.com/Secure/elibrary/papers/AI98/AI98022...
https://www.witpress.com/Secure/elibrary/papers/AI98/AI98022...
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IrinaN
: Sorry, Frank but it does not make much sense indeed. Your link is a literate and overall pretty poor non-native translation that Susan apparently is trying to avoid.
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Don't shoot the messenger. This is what the Russian authors of the original thought the English translation ought to be.
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Comment: "I think with "basic" (and without "totality") it makes more sense. Thanks for your research, Frank. Thanks to the others, too."
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basic yet universal holism
I think some conjunction is required between 'basic' and 'universal' to make it sound more natural in English.
Google gave me quite a few hits on "basic yet universal" and "universal holism", the latter exclusively in texts on psychology.
https://studylib.net/doc/7001246/universal-holism-and-indivi...
Everything together is my cooking :-)
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Note added at 4 hrs (2020-11-28 03:16:25 GMT)
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Fundamental, elementary - anything but initial, IHO
Google gave me quite a few hits on "basic yet universal" and "universal holism", the latter exclusively in texts on psychology.
https://studylib.net/doc/7001246/universal-holism-and-indivi...
Everything together is my cooking :-)
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Note added at 4 hrs (2020-11-28 03:16:25 GMT)
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Fundamental, elementary - anything but initial, IHO
Discussion
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