Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
между данным и заданным
English translation:
between what is given and what is to be achieved
Added to glossary by
Susan Welsh
Dec 18, 2020 20:55
3 yrs ago
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Russian term
United States
Psychology, economics, politics
Native in: English 
Works in: Russian to English, German to English, English
между данным и заданным
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Psychology
activity theory
Перед нами отношение противоположности и единства между наличными и целевыми определениями бытия индивидуума, между данным и заданным, актуальным и потенциальным. Системные свойства элементов наличной ситуации деятельности в процессе ее осуществления превращаются в собственные свойства продукта, воплотившего в себе исходную ее цель.
(В.А. Петровский)
Maybe "the given" vs. "the predetermined"?
(В.А. Петровский)
Maybe "the given" vs. "the predetermined"?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | between what is given and what is to be achieved |
Alexander Efremov
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| 4 +1 | between given and prescribed |
Michael Sarni
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| 3 +1 | actual and desired? |
IrinaN
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| 3 | between given and planned |
Lesia Kutsenko
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Proposed translations
17 hrs
Alexander Efremov
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
Native in Russian
Russian Federation
Translations for Better Business
Native in: Russian 
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, German to Russian
Related KudoZ points
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8
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between what is given and what is to be achieved
В общем согласен с ответом IrinaN, но считаю, что его можно уточнить, т.к. у автора наличная ситуация деятельности (what is given) противопоставляется принятой субъектом цели (what is to be achieved).
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Alexander, and everyone else too. Michael's idea seems good too, although the meaning is quite different ("prescribed" implies that someone else is doing the prescribing, whereas "to be achieved" could be internal or external)."
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4 mins
actual and desired?
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Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Alexander Efremov
: Или between what is given and what is pursued/to be achieved как отношение между наличной ситуацией деятельности и принятой субъектом целью
13 hrs
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Thank you. Agree
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14 mins
Lesia Kutsenko
Canada
Canada
Native in Russian
&
English
Canada
Life-saving precise translations
Native in: English (Variant: US) , Russian (Variant: Standard-Russia)
Works in: Russian to English, Ukrainian to English, English to Ukrainian, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
between given and planned
+1
1 hr
Michael Sarni
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Russian
&
English
United Kingdom
Taking good care of each word
Native in: Russian , English (Variants: US, UK, British)
Works in: English to Russian, Russian to English, Russian, and 22 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
between given and prescribed
Prescribed fits the bill better.
Discussion
http://dpo-journal.ru/pablik/Petrovsky-2.pdf