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African scam on Proz.com
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Dubravka Hrastovec
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In memoriam
Uldis... Jul 15, 2007

... thank you!

 
eurolanguagesPt
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Portuguese to English
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Scam e-mails through Proz Aug 1, 2007

Hello everyone!

Below is a fake e-mail which I received today; this is the second time that I get one of these through PROZ.
After receiving the first one, I responded and communicated with the sender (on Messenger) just to find out that it was some ridiculous porno scam.
I hope that this helps other translators avoid wasting their precious time!
Good luck to all,
Esperança Melo

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Hello everyone!

Below is a fake e-mail which I received today; this is the second time that I get one of these through PROZ.
After receiving the first one, I responded and communicated with the sender (on Messenger) just to find out that it was some ridiculous porno scam.
I hope that this helps other translators avoid wasting their precious time!
Good luck to all,
Esperança Melo

----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: [ProZ.com mail] Hello


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> You have been sent a message via your ProZ.com page.
> Author: kollen001
> Author's Profile: http://www.proz.com/profile/713165
> Author's IP address: 196.2.124.251
> Message type: Job-related
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> Hello I would Need your Services And also would be willing
> to get more ingformation as to the services you render.
>
>
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> Your profile: http://www.proz.com/profile/76329
> Login at: http://www.proz.com/profile/
> Edit your profile mail preferences: http://proz.com/?sp=ef&show_mode=profmail
> Block profile messages from this sender: http://proz.com/?sp=ef&add_ip_block=196.2.124.251&add_email_block=kollenadams2010@yahoo.com&add_eid_block=713165
> Unsolicited advertising? Submit a support ticket: http://proz.com/support
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Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 14:30
English to German
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Submit a Support Request Aug 1, 2007

Hi Esperança,
On a general note, you should submit a Support Request to ProZ.com staff whenever you receive a message which you consider abusive.


Below is a fake e-mail which I received today; this is the second time that I get one of these through PROZ.
After receiving the first one, I responded and communicated with the sender (on Messenger) just to find out that it was some ridiculous porno scam.

Did you contact site staff or a moderator the first time around?

What's the evidence indicating that this message is related?

Best regards,
Ralf


 
Maria Gustafson
Maria Gustafson  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 07:30
Member (2005)
Spanish to English
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Careful! Client asking for banking data in the name of PROZ! Oct 28, 2007

Good Afternoon,

I writing this short and brief mail to you because i
have a job that i will like your assistance.You have to
translate Spanish language to English language.The total
number of the work is 76,000words and i will like to know
your requirements and also the method of payment because my
method of payment is bank transfer.

The dealine of the work will be ending of january.I hope
that you will reply to my mail soon I re
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Good Afternoon,

I writing this short and brief mail to you because i
have a job that i will like your assistance.You have to
translate Spanish language to English language.The total
number of the work is 76,000words and i will like to know
your requirements and also the method of payment because my
method of payment is bank transfer.

The dealine of the work will be ending of january.I hope
that you will reply to my mail soon I represent the Union of African States located in Dubai.

Thank you for your maximum co-operation.Waiting to hear
from you.

Thank you for your mail but i strongly believe in bank transfer business and i want you to understand that you have to take me as your old client because we will be business partners ones this job is done well.
The issue why i want bank transfer is that i travelled for an urgent business so you can call me ...
Please call me now if possible so that we will talk on phone because it will be better.Thanks

How can this happen??? Cordially, Maria Gustafson

[Edited at 2007-10-29 03:37]
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Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 14:30
English to German
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Misunderstanding? Oct 28, 2007

Maria,
First of all, may I ask you to remove non-public information from the quote in your posting? Thank you.



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You have been sent a message via your ProZ.com page.
Author: (removed)
[NOTE: The author is not a registered ProZ.com user or was not logged
in when sending this message.]

Author's IP address: (removed)
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Where do you see any indication that the sender of this message has acted "in the name of" ProZ.com?

TBH all I can see in this message is a contact by a potential client who did not properly identify himself.

Where is the problem about asking for bank details, BTW?

The phone number you have quoted matches the location indicated by the IP address.

Best regards,
Ralf


 
Anabel Granados
Anabel Granados  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 05:30
Member (2007)
Spanish to English
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I also received this. Oct 28, 2007

I also received this message. I'm so glad I checked up on it. I had a feeling that there was something wrong with it. Is this a scam, or are bank transfers standard practice?

 
Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 14:30
English to German
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Evidence? Oct 28, 2007

Hi Anabel,

I also received this message. I'm so glad I checked up on it. I had a feeling that there was something wrong with it.

Except for lack of contact details, I'm still at a loss as to where the problem is, exactly.

Is this a scam, or are bank transfers standard practice?

But of course!
In fact, our business account details are printed on our stationery.
What would someone be able to do with them?

Best regards,
Ralf


 
Anabel Granados
Anabel Granados  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 05:30
Member (2007)
Spanish to English
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Just had a bad feeling Oct 28, 2007

I have never done bank transfers. I usually do Paypal or Moneybookers. The reason I though it was weird was because I asked to see a sample of the project to be worked on and didn't get one. I haven't ruled the client out, but am proceeding with caution (as always).
Thank you for the information.


 
Angela Dickson (X)
Angela Dickson (X)  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:30
French to English
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Scam email - no action by Proz Nov 22, 2007

I received the following message several weeks ago:

You have been sent a message via your ProZ.com page.
Author: gabby_tarreh
Author's Profile: http://www.proz.com/profile/716998
Author's IP address: 196.220.10.59
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i need an interpreter to make communication effective for my
wife and kids coming over to the u.s from togo which you
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I received the following message several weeks ago:

You have been sent a message via your ProZ.com page.
Author: gabby_tarreh
Author's Profile: http://www.proz.com/profile/716998
Author's IP address: 196.220.10.59
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i need an interpreter to make communication effective for my
wife and kids coming over to the u.s from togo which you
know is a francophone country and posses problrm due to
language barrier. i work in amn oil firm somwhere in africa
get back to me soonest i awit your response

_______________________________

This person has a Proz profile. I forwarded the message to Proz support and got a reply saying 'thank you for bringing this to our attention' but the profile is still there. I took the (perhaps foolish) step of replying saying that I a) don't live in the US and b) am not an interpreter but the person said he needs my services anyway...
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Jared Tabor
Jared Tabor
Local time: 09:30
SITE STAFF
Could be a valid request for service? Nov 22, 2007

Hi Angela,

First, thanks for having opened your support request on this. Every report of unwanted email is documented and looked into to the best of our ability, and very often we are able to stop spammers and scammers, so every report helps. Site staff are also very careful when it comes to removing profiles, however. The email in question does not initially appear to be a scam, and could be a genuine request for services.

Please continue to report any unwanted email y
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Hi Angela,

First, thanks for having opened your support request on this. Every report of unwanted email is documented and looked into to the best of our ability, and very often we are able to stop spammers and scammers, so every report helps. Site staff are also very careful when it comes to removing profiles, however. The email in question does not initially appear to be a scam, and could be a genuine request for services.

Please continue to report any unwanted email you receive through your profile via support, as this does help in the effort to make the site a more secure place for everyone. Thanks!

Best,

Jared
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Enrique Cavalitto
Enrique Cavalitto  Identity Verified
Argentina
Local time: 09:30
Member (2006)
English to Spanish
Profile deleted Nov 23, 2007

We have received more information about this issue that led us to delete the profile reported by Angela.

Regards,
Enrique


 
Luke Spear
Luke Spear  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:30
French to English
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Another account has been created Jul 6, 2008

I received a mail like the above ones. I have forwarded the email conversation to [email protected] - the email address used is [email protected] and [email protected] also giving the name: Mr. Gabriel Tarreh, Bend... See more
I received a mail like the above ones. I have forwarded the email conversation to [email protected] - the email address used is [email protected] and [email protected] also giving the name: Mr. Gabriel Tarreh, Bendows Intl. Ltd. with proz.com account: http://www.proz.com/profile/886781

Reasons I am not taking this "client" seriously:
- Never introduced himself
- Spoke in poorly punctuated and broken English (not a problem in itself, but doesn't help in professional communication)
- He ignored my (three) requests for job dates (interpreting in London with his family)
- Mentioned his method of payment was bank transfer in every mail
- Sent a mail concerning another "business proposition" which seemed entirely suspect (also forwarded to [email protected])
- The use of email addresses with different names

@ralf lemster - with the bank account details the "client" could deposit a small or large sum of money into your account and lure you somewhere (london, in my case) on false pretenses (as an interpreter, in my case) and extract the money back out of the account by persuasive means thus having clean cash from a dirty source. I, for one, don't want to be party to a money laundering chain.

I hope this helps someone waste less time with this person.

[Edited at 2008-07-06 17:04]

[Edited at 2008-07-06 17:08]
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Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Germany
Local time: 14:30
English to German
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Please submit a Support Request Jul 6, 2008

Hi Luke,

I received a mail like the above ones. I have forwarded the email conversation to [email protected][/quote]
Please do not contact ProZ.com support by e-mail; submit a Support Request instead.


@ralf lemster - with the bank account details the "client" could deposit a small or large sum of money into your account and lure you somewhere (london, in my case) on false pretenses (as an interpreter, in my case) and extract the money back out of the account by persuasive means thus having clean cash from a dirty source. I, for one, don't want to be party to a money laundering chain.

Me neither.

What I would do if someone made a payment into our company account, and then requested it back under suspicious circumstances is to notify the bank, and let them deal with it. Not sure what "persuasive means" you're referring to, but once a bank-to-bank payment has been made, the payer cannot simply demand it back (there are exceptions to this, but these mostly refer to public-sector authorities and similar entities).

Best, Ralf

 
SilviuM
SilviuM
Romania
Local time: 15:30
Romanian to English
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Just... report'em! :) Jul 29, 2008

Here are some of the most common Nigerian and Ivory Coast-related anti-scam and anti-scamsters portals found thus far, ran by... English-speaking persons.
However, they DO ask for your donations, so I don't know who to trust anymore. Maybe THEY are the scamsters, and we fall for it by thinking: "We're helping them doing their (highly dangerous, i.e. - stopping Internet frauds -) jobs". "They sacrifice their very LIVES for us!
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Here are some of the most common Nigerian and Ivory Coast-related anti-scam and anti-scamsters portals found thus far, ran by... English-speaking persons.
However, they DO ask for your donations, so I don't know who to trust anymore. Maybe THEY are the scamsters, and we fall for it by thinking: "We're helping them doing their (highly dangerous, i.e. - stopping Internet frauds -) jobs". "They sacrifice their very LIVES for us!" and all that jazz...


http://www.priveye.com/Nigeria.htm

http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal

http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/419.htm

... and so on.

So, just "Google" them out, and then... report them to the Feds in your country, I guess.

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx
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