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Jo Macdonald 
Spain
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Updated to Windows 11, took about 1/2 hour.
Everything worked: Studio 2017, Thunderbird, Chrome, an installed dictionary.
No data loss, connection OK, all pretty smooth.
Tried fixing a few things that didn't work for me but it looks a lot less customizable than 10.
Minor things I didn't like: big fat task bar you can't make smaller, the clock + date are always displayed as is the keyboard language/layout, no way to clean up the taskbar.
Major th... See more Updated to Windows 11, took about 1/2 hour.
Everything worked: Studio 2017, Thunderbird, Chrome, an installed dictionary.
No data loss, connection OK, all pretty smooth.
Tried fixing a few things that didn't work for me but it looks a lot less customizable than 10.
Minor things I didn't like: big fat task bar you can't make smaller, the clock + date are always displayed as is the keyboard language/layout, no way to clean up the taskbar.
Major thing I couldn't live with: there's no way to pin a folder (documents) to the task bar to open it with the mouse as a tree so you can quickly browse folders and files to copy, paste, move, send, whatever you want to do with your files.
It's really problematic to even find the file manager and when you do you can use that to manage files but it's pretty much click one folder to open it, then a sub-folder, then another, like Windows 7 or something.
In 11 you can pin a folder to the taskbar but can't browse quickly through it as a tree, which you can if you pin the Docs folder to the task bar in 10.
Rolling back to 10 took about 5 minutes, everything was as before.
You have 10 days to roll back looks like.
10 should get updates until 2025. ▲ Collapse
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Thanks for the warning. I'll stick to 10 as long as possible.
Microsoft should sack half their developers, who don't seem to have anything useful to do, instead spending their time wrecking or removing good and useful functions and UI elements in every update.
In 10, they had hidden the 'Recent folders' folder, which took a lot of research and time to find.
| | | | | Features and misfeatures | Oct 28, 2021 |
The "big fat taskbar" in Windows 11 can be made thinner, a description is here.
When it comes to file managers, I think Windows never had it right. If you ask me, the best file manager paradigm in its original form dates back to 1984. I mean Norton Commander. Today, its remote descendant, Christian Ghisler's Total Commander with its numerous plugins and hundreds of... See more The "big fat taskbar" in Windows 11 can be made thinner, a description is here.
When it comes to file managers, I think Windows never had it right. If you ask me, the best file manager paradigm in its original form dates back to 1984. I mean Norton Commander. Today, its remote descendant, Christian Ghisler's Total Commander with its numerous plugins and hundreds of options, blows built-in Windows tools out of the water. Yes, it takes more skill to tune and manage, but it alone efficiently replaces a whole set of applications.
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| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 03:41
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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Jo Macdonald wrote:
There's no way to pin a folder (documents) to the task bar to open it with the mouse as a tree...
Wow, I never knew about this feature. Drag and drop any folder to the taskbar, Windows offers to "pin" it (although in reality Windows doesn't pin that particular folder -- it just creates a shortcut to some folders), and then right-click the pinned folder for a tree-like preview of some folders. Many of the folders on that tree are on the desktop, but some aren't, and some don't even exist anymore, so I have no idea where Windows 10 gets that list from.
It's pretty much click one folder to open it, then a sub-folder, then another, like Windows 7 or something.
What you describe here is what I do in Windows 10, except that I double-click, and sometimes I single-click plus press ENTER.
Hey, I googled for this and found a number of posts on how to get the classic taskbar back in Windows 11. Some posts point to a registry fix. Another recommends this app: https://www.startallback.com (shown here, mute the video).
Also, I wonder if these types of utilities allow one to have a vertical taskbar. I mean, I have a *wide* screen, so I have space to spare on the sides of my screen, not at the bottom.
[Edited at 2021-10-28 22:18 GMT]
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Kimberly Wastler
United States
Local time: 21:41
Member (2005)
Italian to English
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| Language "button" not on taskbar and right-clicking has now become two-steps to unzip/rename | Nov 10, 2021 |
Is anyone else having these issues?
I cannot imagine I'm the only one who uses more than one language on my PC and loves to toggle back and forth - quickly. With Windows 10, there was a nice little button on the taskbar. In Windows 11, it's been "disassociated" and now floats at the top of the screen. It covers tab names, command buttons, and is generally a pain.
Let's not talk about the right-click! It now requires you to go through added steps to do simple things, li... See more Is anyone else having these issues?
I cannot imagine I'm the only one who uses more than one language on my PC and loves to toggle back and forth - quickly. With Windows 10, there was a nice little button on the taskbar. In Windows 11, it's been "disassociated" and now floats at the top of the screen. It covers tab names, command buttons, and is generally a pain.
Let's not talk about the right-click! It now requires you to go through added steps to do simple things, like renaming a file or using a decompression app.
Yuck. I am NOT a big fan. I will give it a few days, but I may go back! I am still smarting from when XP got phased out. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Rolf Keller
Germany
Local time: 03:41
English to German
| Choose Langage hotkey? | Nov 10, 2021 |
Kimberly Wastler wrote:
I cannot imagine I'm the only one who uses more than one language on my PC and loves to toggle back and forth - quickly. With Windows 10, there was a nice little button on the taskbar. In Windows 11, it's been "disassociated" and now floats at the top of the screen.
Just try this: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-change-key-sequence-change-input-language-windows
AFAIK this possibility exists for 15+ years.
| | | | | Toggle between languages | Feb 9, 2022 |
To toggle between languages you can simply press the Windows key+the space bar. Much quicker than clicking on the language bar or icon.
Kimberly Wastler wrote:
Is anyone else having these issues?
I cannot imagine I'm the only one who uses more than one language on my PC and loves to toggle back and forth - quickly. With Windows 10, there was a nice little button on the taskbar. In Windows 11, it's been "disassociated" and now floats at the top of the screen. It covers tab names, command buttons, and is generally a pain.
Let's not talk about the right-click! It now requires you to go through added steps to do simple things, like renaming a file or using a decompression app.
Yuck. I am NOT a big fan. I will give it a few days, but I may go back! I am still smarting from when XP got phased out.
| | | | Jo Macdonald
Spain
Local time: 03:41
Italian to English
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Philippe Noth
Switzerland
Local time: 03:41
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German to French
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| StartIsBack/StartAllBack | Jan 6, 2023 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
Also, I wonder if these types of utilities allow one to have a vertical taskbar. I mean, I have a *wide* screen, so I have space to spare on the sides of my screen, not at the bottom.
[Edited at 2021-10-28 22:18 GMT]
StartAllBack does. It is even the single reason I purchased a licence back in October.
But I have slowly gotten used to Windows 11. I could probably donate the license to you since I uninstalled the product and decided I would not add this additional layer to Windows. Let me know…
Philippe
| | | | | Beware of default OneDrive settings | Jan 17, 2023 |
Default OneDrive settings can cause issues. You may have a hard time finding your stuff, files can be exported straight to OneDrive even if you didn’t ask for it. Some people have had struggles with having two Desktop folders, and the list goes on. To fix this, some settings need to be changed and it can only be done in a particular order.
So here is a very quick video showing 3 steps to fix this. You can pause for better a better experience (you may want to untick AutoRotate and then ro... See more Default OneDrive settings can cause issues. You may have a hard time finding your stuff, files can be exported straight to OneDrive even if you didn’t ask for it. Some people have had struggles with having two Desktop folders, and the list goes on. To fix this, some settings need to be changed and it can only be done in a particular order.
So here is a very quick video showing 3 steps to fix this. You can pause for better a better experience (you may want to untick AutoRotate and then rotate your Smartphone while you try this method).
Follow the steps in the order otherwise you won’t be able to untick the boxes on step 2.
https://youtu.be/M4rj4LUdojY
BTW, there is a method to install Win 11 while offline (without connecting an MS account), If you’re interested I’ll post it below.
Be well. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | @Philippe - yes, please post it | Jan 31, 2023 |
Philippe Locquet wrote:
BTW, there is a method to install Win 11 while offline (without connecting an MS account), If you’re interested I’ll post it below.
Be well.
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