legacy city

Portuguese translation: Cidade pós-industrial

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English term or phrase:legacy city
Portuguese translation:Cidade pós-industrial
Entered by: José António de Freitas e Silva

22:26 Oct 6, 2022
English to Portuguese translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Environment & Ecology
English term or phrase: legacy city
from one legacy city to the next, as some areas gentrify, many other neighborhoods, including many that were pretty solid, relatively stable working- class or middle- class
neighborhoods until fairly recently, are falling off a social and economic cliff
José António de Freitas e Silva
Portugal
Local time: 11:19
Cidade pós-industrial
Explanation:
Sugestão.

"Legacy cities, also commonly referred to as shrinking, or post-industrial cities, are places that have experienced sustained population loss and economic contraction. In the United States, legacy cities are those that are largely within the Rust Belt that thrived during the first half of the 20th century."
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Lucas Pereira
Brazil
Local time: 07:19
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Obrigado, Lucas.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +5cidade em declínio
expressisverbis
4cidade mais antiga/ remanescente
ferreirac
4Cidade tradicional/estabelecids
Augusto Rochadel
3 +1Cidade pós-industrial
Lucas Pereira
3"legacy city"
Ricardo Monassa
3cidade original
Ana Vozone
3cidade espólio
Rodrigo Gomes


  

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cidade mais antiga/ remanescente


Explanation:
Sugestão.

ferreirac
Brazil
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Cidade tradicional/estabelecids


Explanation:
Sugestão.

Augusto Rochadel
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Cidade pós-industrial


Explanation:
Sugestão.

"Legacy cities, also commonly referred to as shrinking, or post-industrial cities, are places that have experienced sustained population loss and economic contraction. In the United States, legacy cities are those that are largely within the Rust Belt that thrived during the first half of the 20th century."


    https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctvj7wn0p#:~:text=Legacy%20cities%2C%20also%20commonly%20referred,half%20of%20the%2020th%20century.
Lucas Pereira
Brazil
Local time: 07:19
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Obrigado, Lucas.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kauê Oliveira
3 days 14 hrs
  -> Obrigado, Kauê.
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
cidade em declínio


Explanation:
Legacy cities are cities that have experienced substantial economic and population decline in the 20th and 21st centuries.
https://www.lincolninst.edu/research-data/data-toolkits/lega...

Legacy Cities are cities that have experienced profound social and economic disruption as a result of fundamental shifts of the global economy in recent decades, and policy decisions made at the local, state, and federal level.

Read more: https://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/2827854-what-def...
https://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/2827854-what-def...

Legacy cities: places where a complex mixture of assets and
challenges provide a unique variety of opportunities and hurdles
The strategy that follows is that older industrial cities have assets
whose value is being limited by the wider urban context (of decline).
By reinvesting in those assets, they can meet a set of demands that
the current economy is generating.
https://andrewvanleuven.com/files/slides/uaa_slides_2018.pdf

O debate em torno do processo de despovoamento das cidades não é nada novo, tendo sido discutido amplamente pelos quatro cantos da Europa desde o início dos anos 2000, quando muitas das pequenas cidades do antigo Bloco de Leste passaram por um rápido e voraz processo de despovoamento. O termo “shrinking cities”, ou cidades em declínio, foi cunhado pelo arquiteto Philipp Oswalt, que o definiu como um problema causado por diversos motivos e em diferentes escalas.
https://www.archdaily.com.br/br/965007/as-cidades-estao-enco...

expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 11:19
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Luciana Yury Mino: pensei em "decadente" também, mas "em declínio" tem uma ocorrência mais expressiva, uns 20 mil resultados na pesquisa
27 mins
  -> Obrigada, Luciana!

agree  Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida: Também encontrei cidade em contração: https://www.google.com/search?q="cidade em contração" site:p...
8 hrs
  -> Obrigada, Teresa! Boa opção também!

agree  Paulinho Fonseca
12 hrs
  -> Obrigada, Paulinho!

agree  Clauwolf
15 hrs
  -> Obrigada, Clauwolf!

agree  Teresa Freixinho
16 hrs
  -> Obrigada Teresa!
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"legacy city"


Explanation:
Gostei muito de todas as explicações dos colegas, mas não gostei de nenhuma tradução. Quem sabe não seja uma daquelas para manter em Inglês entre aspas. Melhor do que inventar moda, não é? Ou se inventar "Cidade Legado" deixar em inglês do lado (Legacy City)


Ricardo Monassa
Brazil
Local time: 07:19
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mario Freitas: Ricardo, esse tipo de comentário a gente faz na "Discussão" e não postado como uma resposta. Abraço. Vergonha nenhuma, amigo. A maioria dos colegas faz a mesma coisa no início. Eu também fiz e alguém me deu um puxão de orelha :)
15 hrs
  -> Como diz aquele meu amigo "desculpa a vergonha que eu passei!" Abs =)
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cidade original


Explanation:
Mais uma sugestão.

https://www.google.com/search?q="cidade original" gentrifica...

Example sentence(s):
  • os edifícios históricos dos Distritos Periféricos, que cercaram a cidade original de Madri e foram anexados no
  • Grande parte das construções da cidade original data de 1940 e 1950 no estilo Art. Déco – o mesmo do Elevador Lacerda em Salvador.
Ana Vozone
Local time: 11:19
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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cidade espólio


Explanation:
Mais algumas sugestões: "cidade espólio/espoliada", "cidade despojo/despojada", para ficar com o sentido negativo.
Acho possível tentar cunhar o termo "cidade legada", e não "legado", ou seja, ela não é um legado, "o" legado - com um certo sentido positivo, mas ao contrário, ela foi "legada".

Rodrigo Gomes
Brazil
Local time: 07:19
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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