closer to the norm

English translation: is more frequently seen

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English term or phrase:closer to the norm
Selected answer:is more frequently seen
Entered by: Yvonne Gallagher

19:49 Mar 25, 2024
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
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English term or phrase: closer to the norm
Dear colleagues,
I'm not completely sure about the meaning of "closer to the norm" in the passage below about alexithymia, the inability to name emotions. Does it mean "very common"? But if this were the meaning, I don't understand why the author says "however", since the previous sentence also says this is a trait in many people... Maybe "closer to the norm" is stronger than "common" and means "nearly all my patients"?
Thank you so much for your attention!

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Not having words for feelings, the concept of alexithymia (Taylor, 2000), represents a body of research exploring what has been found to be a trait in many people. In my clinical practice, however, a relative alexithymia is *** closer to the norm *** in some people: They often start treatment unable to express both thoughts and feelings. But after an emotion-focused approach to their psychotherapy, their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically. In my practice, alexithymia is related to state rather than trait.
haribert
Local time: 14:22
is more frequently seen
Explanation:
an explanation of the "however"

"...the concept of alexithymia[...] has been found to be a trait in many people.
HOWEVER a relative alexithymia is more frequently seen/observed (in my clinical practice
BECAUSE (patients) often start treatment unable to express both thoughts and feelings. [...] After treatment and therapy, "their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically.
In my practice, alexithymia is related to state rather than trait.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-prof...

"Absolute stability is reached if people with alexithymia score the same on an alexithymia scale over time. Relative stability refers to temporal stability or people's relative position on levels of alexithymia, even though their absolute score may change."

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Glad to have helped. Hope you had a good Easter

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I'm also working! I visited my sister in hospital yesterday as she fell, broke her femur and cracked 2 ribs last Thursday with an opersation on Friday to insert a plate:-(

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Thank you Haribert!
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 13:22
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Thank you so much, Yvonne, for your help! Many thanks also to all other colleagues for their contribution!
Happy Easter holidays!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +5[see below]
Michael Beijer
4 +2is more frequently seen
Yvonne Gallagher
4É mais comum
Diogo Garcia
4 -1a relative alexithymia is close to be the most usual ... however we can improve on that
Daryo
3alexithymia is relative and less far form the standards for some people
Susana E. Cano Méndez


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
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Explanation:
some synonyms:

closer to the norm =
• More commonplace
• More typical
• Rather standard
• Frequently observed
• Not uncommon
• Relatively usual
• More often the rule than the exception
• Somewhat expected
• Tending towards the standard
• A common occurrence
• closer to what is generally seen in people
• etc.

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:22
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you so much, Michael, for your help! Really useful synonyms!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
1 hr
  -> Thanks!

agree  AllegroTrans: synonyms are always useful
14 hrs
  -> thanks!

agree  Lara Barnett
14 hrs
  -> thanks!

agree  Christopher Schröder
17 hrs
  -> thanks!

agree  Anastasia Kalantzi
18 hrs
  -> thanks!
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
É mais comum


Explanation:
In my opinion, the author means that most people have a "relative alexithymia" (as in a temporary state), rather than "alexithymia" as an actual a trait (as suggested by research).

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Please ignore the title. I've mistakenly translated that term to Portuguese.

Diogo Garcia
Portugal
Local time: 13:22
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you very much! May I ask what "è mais comum" means?

Asker: maybe you can post your answer again, with the title in English...because I think your remark is very useful!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: yes, you got close to the meaning
18 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
relative alexithymia is closer to the norm ... however
a relative alexithymia is close to be the most usual ... however we can improve on that


Explanation:

**At the beginning**:
a relative (mild?) alexithymia is quite usual, almost "the norm"

which is implied to be an undesirable trait, thus the "however"

as **after some therapy**, this can be changed (/improved):
their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically.

Simpler version:

It starts not so good, however we can fix it.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:22
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Daryo, for your attempt... I also had difficulty in understanding "closer to the norm" in this context initially...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: ...is close to BEING the MORE usual // Should've gone to Specsavers?
3 hrs
  -> My mistake - should've reread more carefully.

disagree  Christopher Schröder: Grammar aside, I disagree with your explanation. I see no sense of undesirable.
6 hrs
  -> I'm talking of how it's seen by psychotherapists, like the one writing this ST, never mind if you or I or anyone else agrees with that or not!

neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: not what the "however" means
8 hrs
  -> You made me recheck how "however" is used, and I can't see how my explanation wouldn't make sense.// Like other uses of "however," this implies **a contrast to the previous content**, ... etc https://www.wikihow.com/Use-However
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
relative alexithymia is closer to the norm in some people
alexithymia is relative and less far form the standards for some people


Explanation:
That's what I interpret from reading the whole text:

In some people, alexithymia is relative and thus, closer to what society admits in terms of lack of emotions.

Hope it helps.

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*From (sry)

Susana E. Cano Méndez
Spain
Local time: 14:22
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you very much, Susana, for your contribution!

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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
is more frequently seen


Explanation:
an explanation of the "however"

"...the concept of alexithymia[...] has been found to be a trait in many people.
HOWEVER a relative alexithymia is more frequently seen/observed (in my clinical practice
BECAUSE (patients) often start treatment unable to express both thoughts and feelings. [...] After treatment and therapy, "their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically.
In my practice, alexithymia is related to state rather than trait.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-prof...

"Absolute stability is reached if people with alexithymia score the same on an alexithymia scale over time. Relative stability refers to temporal stability or people's relative position on levels of alexithymia, even though their absolute score may change."

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Note added at 6 days (2024-04-01 00:15:41 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped. Hope you had a good Easter

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Note added at 6 days (2024-04-01 17:09:40 GMT) Post-grading
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I'm also working! I visited my sister in hospital yesterday as she fell, broke her femur and cracked 2 ribs last Thursday with an opersation on Friday to insert a plate:-(

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Note added at 7 days (2024-04-01 23:13:36 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Haribert!

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 13:22
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 659
Grading comment
Thank you so much, Yvonne, for your help! Many thanks also to all other colleagues for their contribution!
Happy Easter holidays!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you so much, Yvonne, for your clear explanation!

Asker: Hi, dear Yvonne, I had to work a little bit, but the weather was bad so it was ok... Hope you had good Easter, too!

Asker: Oh, I'm really sorry for your sister... I wish her to get well soon! A big hug to you!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: This works well
1 hr
  -> Many thanks:-)

agree  Michael Beijer
5 days
  -> Many thanks:-) That's generous of you
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