to the advantages of a mate

English translation: Men might be open to a monogamous relationship

02:07 Sep 20, 2004
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English term or phrase: to the advantages of a mate
Men might be open to the advantages of a mate but were driven by evolutionary drives to spread their seed.
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Selected answer:Men might be open to a monogamous relationship
Explanation:
... but instead, spread their seed and look for several mates.

The sentence would be more clear if instead of "a mate" it read "one mate."
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Tegan Raleigh
United States
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Thank you very much!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +4to the benefits of having a significant other, or being part of a pair, a companion
Michael Powers (PhD)
5 +1Men might be open to a monogamous relationship
Tegan Raleigh
4 +2might be willing to take on a mate because of the advantages of this.
Richard Benham
5to the advantages of having a mate..Men might be open to the advantages of a monogamous relationship
airmailrpl
4 -1grammatical comment (verb tenses)
Johanne Bouthillier


  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
to the benefits of having a significant other, or being part of a pair, a companion


Explanation:
Merriam-Webster

3 : one of a pair: as a : either member of a couple and especially a married couple b : either member of a breeding pair of animals c : either of two matched objects

Mike :)

Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 120

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Deborah Workman
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Deborah - Mike :)

agree  Armorel Young: benefits of being "paired" with one particular person
5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Amorel - Mike :)

agree  Rajan Chopra
6 hrs
  -> Thank you, langclinic - Mike :)

agree  Ana Juliá
3 days 6 hrs
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Men might be open to a monogamous relationship


Explanation:
... but instead, spread their seed and look for several mates.

The sentence would be more clear if instead of "a mate" it read "one mate."

Tegan Raleigh
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Thank you very much!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Saleh Chowdhury, Ph.D.
1 hr

neutral  Richard Benham: I wouldn't mind betting that it's about "having it both ways"--having a mate andscrewing around--rather than a choice between the two.
4 hrs

neutral  Tony M: Don't agree with your last point; the idea of 'mate' here IS already 'one and only one'
6 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
grammatical comment (verb tenses)


Explanation:
I think the verb tenses are not in sink (correct me if I'm wrong)

try: might have been... were

or: might be...are


Johanne Bouthillier
Canada
Local time: 12:15
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tegan Raleigh
2 hrs

disagree  Richard Benham: That's "sync" (or even "synch"--short for "synchrony" or "synchronization"). "Might" is subjunctive *or past* of "may".
3 hrs

disagree  Tony M: echoing Richard's scomment. "Men might (still today) be open to the idea... except that historically they were obliged for evolutionary reasons..."
5 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
to the advantages of having a mate..Men might be open to the advantages of a monogamous relationship


Explanation:
to the advantages of a mate => to the advantages of having a mate

Men might be open to the advantages of having a monogamous relationship

airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 13:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 64

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Richard Benham: I tink it's more about having a mate *and* the odd "bit on the side"--hardly monogamy in the popular sense of the term.//If reading books on evolutionary psychology counts as experience, yes!
39 mins
  -> is your 'take' flavored by personal experience??
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
might be willing to take on a mate because of the advantages of this.


Explanation:
This is not very elegant, sorry, but I assume you wanted an explanation rather than a rephrasing. I think you should be wary of some other suggestions concerning monogamy. I believe that what is being described here is the so-called male dual strategy. There are evolutionary advantages to having a mate and keeping her faithful: your offspring with her, being cared for by both parents, have better prospects of surviving and reproducing. But you can do this and "spread your seed" (i.e. screw around) at the same time. The additional cost of casual sex is negligible, and so it doesn't matter, from an evolutionary point of view, that any offspring resulting from this won't have the benefit of two parents: they're a bonus. Of course, better stil, is to father children by someone else's mate and have him put in the sacrifices of protecting, feeding and rearing them.

None of this relates to how we men in civilised society behave, though, does it?

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Note added at 5 hrs 8 mins (2004-09-20 07:15:02 GMT)
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Tense of \"might\". This is, according to Collins and my native-speaker intuitions, either subjunctive or past tense (indicative) if \"may\". (Cf \"could\" in relation to \"can\".) For the correct sequence of tenses, it needs to be past tense. So it is not really expressing a hypothetical possibility. It is saying, yes, they had the possibility of doing this, and (by implication) some at least actually did. But they also did the other thing. I get the strong feeling that the men who availed themselves of the advantages of a mate and the men who \"spread their seed\" were not disjoint groups.

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Note added at 3 days 6 hrs 55 mins (2004-09-23 09:02:18 GMT)
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\"Might\" revisited. I think, on reflection, that might is present subjunctive/conditional (I don\'t want to get into a fight with Dusty over terminology). But I don\'t take it a s counterfactual. It means, IMHO, that some men at least do take mate (most of us do, in fact), but that we are driven by evolutionary forces to ALSO \"spread our seed\". See, e.g. David Buss, \"The Evolution of Desire\" (I think htat\'s right), for an explanation of this.

THanks to Dusty for alerting me, albeit indirectly to this grammatical possibility.

I find \"were driven\" a little misleading; I would prefer \"have been driven\", although, admittedly, the simple past has some currency in US Englishin such contexts.

Richard Benham
France
Local time: 18:15
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Thanks, R. for the stimulating discussion. I bow of course to your superior linguistic knowledge. The more I read it, the less sure I feel... it would be interesting to know the wider temporal context... I'd almost have expected 'might HAVE been open...'
1 hr
  -> Thanks!//I take "might" as concessive, but your interpretation is possible...my only qualm being that I think many men *are* open to the advantages of a mate!//See my (second) note on the tense of "might".

agree  Ana Juliá
3 days 1 hr
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