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王府井大街的变迁 Sep 19, 2015

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王府井大街上可能所有的建筑都进行了重建或扩建。香港新鸿基地产旗下的新东安市场是个巨大的购物中心,
北京第三家 Apple Store 就在那里。

但是穿过熙熙攘攘的人流闹市,在不经意中会发现眼前赫然耸立着一座天主教堂。

的确,近几十年来,王府井大街几乎已完全改头换面,那天主教堂是难得的历史遗迹。不过我在脑子里,仍还保存着对旧王府井和旧东安市场的一些记忆。记得我第一次到北京时,在北京火车站搭4路(现104路)无轨电车去和平里,十几分钟后电车就穿过王府井大街。现在,王府井大街那一段已改为步行街,104路电车也不得不绕行。

以前,那座天主教堂有围墙,故路人不易看到它的全貌,而且由于年久失修,不大引人注目。教堂翻修之时,改建了堂前广场,拆除了围墙,从而焕然一新,赫然耸立在众人眼前。

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/王府井大街

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/王府井天主堂


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Amazing Transformation Indeed Sep 20, 2015










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Family name Xi Sep 20, 2015

Just heard John McLaughlin call Xi Jinping "President Jinping" on his show.

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王府井的变迁 Sep 20, 2015


ysun wrote:王府井大街的变迁

不过我在脑子里,仍还保存着对旧王府井和旧东安市场的一些记忆。



是啊,好像只有想起旧王府井才有真实的亲切感。东安市场被更名(北京apm)多少有点可惜,百货大楼扩建改造后还算保留了不少北京特色;有些大而新的门面以及铺天盖地的广告,反倒是耀眼得让人感到空洞。


[Edited at 2015-09-20 18:45 GMT]

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黄河儿女 Sep 20, 2015




Jasmine Flowers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeuGfHJeDrc

Amazing Chinese 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n_ZMhKIisQ

黄河儿女
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1AAaXxAxmU






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consumer society Sep 20, 2015

QHE wrote:


ysun wrote:王府井大街的变迁

不过我在脑子里,仍还保存着对旧王府井和旧东安市场的一些记忆。



是啊,好像只有想起旧王府井才有真实亲切感。东安商场被更名(北京apm)多少有点可惜,百货大楼扩建改造后还算保留了不少北京特色;有些大而新的门面以及铺天盖地的广告,反倒是耀眼得让人感到空洞。


我想到王府井观观光还可以,不过人山人海、熙熙攘攘的也会很累。 真要买东西还是这边比较轻松惬意,高中低档次的消费品到处都是、应有尽有。


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记忆中的东单菜市场 Sep 20, 2015

I accidentally came across this piece of news ...




http://bjwb.bjd.com.cn/html/2015-08/25/content_306571.htm



百年东单菜市场9月底重张
北京晚报 2015年08月25日 星期二

新址选在和平里 地上地下共7层 基地直供菜价能便宜30%

本报讯(记者张楠)从北京人的生活中消失了十多年的百年东单菜市场又回来了。新店选在了居民聚集的和平里地区,预计9月底开门迎客。由于采用了蔬果基地直供的方式,新东单菜市场的蔬果价格能比其他普通菜市场、超市便宜30%。在新东单菜市场开业当天,东四五条还会同步挂牌成立东单菜市场分店,居民可享受同步的价格和服务。

曾为京城4大菜市场之一

说起东单菜市场,最早的历史可以追溯到1902年清朝年间。那时候它的名字叫做“东菜市”,位于东长安街的东单路口西北角,东单二条胡同南侧。由于临近当时北京最早的使馆区东交民巷,一个普通的菜市场竟然还拥有自己的英文名字“East Market”,除了售卖一般的瓜果蔬菜、生活用品之外,还有一些在那个年代看起来格外稀罕的外国货出售,被当时的北京人公认为京城少有的“高档购物场所”。

一直到1958年公私合营后,“东菜市”改成了“东单菜市场”,由郭沫若先生亲自题写了牌匾,悬挂在菜市场的南门上。上世纪70年代,东单菜市场加上西单、朝内、崇文门菜市场,并立为北京城内最著名的4大菜市场。1997年,因为要在东单菜市场的原址位置上建如今的东方新天地购物广场,经营了整整95年的东单菜市场被整体拆除。

基地直供菜价便宜30%

考虑到东单紧邻长安街,周围都是写字楼、白领,已经不需要这样的大型便民菜市场了,新的东单菜市场选在了东城区和平里西街69号,从地铁和平里北街站一出来就能看见,方圆两公里内有社区42个,开业后预计将有30万户居民受益。

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安塞腰鼓 Sep 20, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK1Nknb15co




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面向老百姓的东安市场已成为历史 Sep 20, 2015

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是啊,好像只有想起旧王府井才有真实的亲切感。东安市场被更名(北京apm)多少有点可惜,百货大楼扩建改造后还算保留了不少北京特色;有些大而新的门面以及铺天盖地的广告,反倒是耀眼得让人感到空洞。

没错。东安市场更名为“北京apm”,我还是第一次听说(恕我孤陋寡闻)。这就像过去有人把王府井大街改为“莫里逊大街”或“人民路”一样,都难以被老百姓接受。以前的王府井、东安市场面向的是普通老百姓,而现在的王府井、新东安市场面向的是高档消费者。所谓高档消费者也未必都是高收入者,很多是不懂行情或甘愿“挨宰”的外地来的游客。我大致看了一下,许多进口的名牌化妆品、服装等商品比美国商店里卖的贵多了。

[Edited at 2015-09-21 15:25 GMT]


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崇文门菜市场 Sep 20, 2015

wherestip wrote:

记忆中的东单菜市场

崇文门菜市场也搬到广渠门大街去了。这都是地产开发商给闹腾的!


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王府井 Sep 20, 2015

wherestip wrote: consumer society

我想到王府井观观光还可以,不过人山人海、熙熙攘攘的也会很累。 真要买东西还是这边比较轻松惬意,高中低档次的消费品到处都是、应有尽有。


确实是这样。以前是比较喜欢王府井书店,工艺美术和各色美食; 但是后来那边变得没什么特色了, 购物中心也都是统一模式。我倒是比较喜欢大栅栏前门那条步行街。


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大栅栏 Sep 21, 2015

当年我刚到北京上学时,把大栅栏念成“dà zhà lán”。几位北京同学听了笑得前仰后合,笑得我莫名其妙。他们告诉我,应该念“大拾烂儿”!虽然我不理解为什么要这么念,但我想他们是北京人,这么念应该不会错。于是,“不理解也得执行”

浏览前门大栅栏周边的北京老字号
http://www.cnr.cn/tbtj/200501290016.html




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Weird Pronunciations Sep 21, 2015

ysun wrote:

当年我刚到北京上学时,把大栅栏念成“dà zhà lán”。几位北京同学听了笑得前仰后合,笑得我莫名其妙。他们告诉我,应该念“大拾烂儿”!虽然我不理解为什么要这么念,但我想他们是北京人,这么念应该不会错。于是,“不理解也得执行”



Yueyin,

那你还算好的呢,记得航院里我爸的同事一板一眼管它叫 “dà shān lán” 的南方人大有人在,就连我也是以后上了高中要跑城里才知道大栅栏北京话应该怎样说。  


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When in Rome ... Sep 21, 2015

New Orleans   That's a tricky one that even a Yankee who doesn't get around much could easily get wrong.

http://www.nola.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/03/how_do_you_pronounce_new_orlea.html
How do you pronounce New Orleans?


Here are some Austin landmarks whose pronunciations are unique to Austinites ...



http://activerain.com/blogsview/622186/-jason-how-do-you-pronounce-that-a-visitor-s-guide-to-austin

Much like the spelling bee, I will attempt to use each of the landmarks in a sentence in an effort to help.

BURNET ROAD - Seems easy enough, right? I thought so, too, until I learned that it is pronounced BURN-it, not Bur-NETT. My son has his martial arts classes in Austin on BURN-it Road.

BUDA, Texas - This is not pronounced "Buddha". Instead, the phonetic pronunciation is BYOO-duh. The Y is not a separate syllable. Instead, it's like a hard Y sound, sort of like the "y" in "yarn". I am headed to BYOO-duh for a barbeque tonight.

HUTTO, Texas - This one has always seemed really easy to me, so I am constantly surprised when I hear someone say "HOO-toe" when it is clearly "HUT-toe", as it appears. My family and I live very close to HUT-toe.

MANCHACA Road - This is one of the worst offenders around. It would seem to be the Spanish pronunciation - Mahn-CHA-cah, right? Wrong. It is pronounced "MAN-shack", like a seedy bar. MAN-shack is a road in south Austin. It is also the name of a town just south of Austin.

ELGIN, Texas - This town located due east of Austin about 30 minutes is pronounced "ELL-gihn", not "ELL-Jen" like the watch company. ELL-gihn is home to regionally famous "ELL-gihn hot guts" (sausage).

KOENIG Lane - Try getting used to saying, "KAY-neg", NOT "KOH-nig". KAY-neg Lane has several names, as it is the same road as 290 (to the east), Northland, and 2222 (to the west). Easy, huh?

MANOR, Texas - This is a common problem for newcomers, as manor is an actual word used elsewhere in the English language. In central Texas, however, this is pronounced "MAY-nur". MAY-nur is located between Austin and ELL-gihn. MAY-nur is also a road near central Austin.

PFLUGERVILLE, Texas - This is where we have lived for 13 years, and it is named after the Pfluger family. As you might imagine, the P is silent and the rest is pretty much phonetic - FLOO-gur-ville. I enjoy living in FLOO-gur-ville.

LLANO, Texas - Try "LANN-oh". LANN-oh is on the outskirts of the Austin metro area.

NEW BRAUNFELS, Texas - This German-settled town between Austin and San Antonio is home to Schlitterbahn, which is a giant water park and regional summer destination. The primary mistake I see here is people putting an additional "s" after "braun". It is New Braunfels, not New Braunsfels.




~*~*~*~*~*

Here's something I read recently:

http://www.wdsu.com/entertainment/rowling-youre-pronouncing-voldemort-wrong/35198002

Rowling: You're pronouncing 'Voldemort' wrong
Fracas over 'Harry Potter' villain's name starts on Twitter
UPDATED 7:59 PM CDT Sep 10, 2015


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栅的发音 Sep 21, 2015

wherestip wrote:

Yueyin,

那你还算好的呢,记得航院里我爸的同事一板一眼管它叫 “dà shān lán” 的南方人大有人在,就连我也是以后上了高中要跑城里才知道大栅栏北京话应该怎样说。  

Steve,

确实,很多南方人都会说“dà shān lán”。我也在“dà zhà lán”和“dà shān lán”之间犹豫了半天。 上海有家著名的小吃店“乔家栅”,那个栅字就念shān。上海人甚至把它念成 sā (jiáo gā sā)。

顺便说一句,两年前我去 Apple 总部所在地 Cupertino,发现那里居然有家饭馆名叫“上海乔家栅”!

http://7.share.photo.xuite.net/svalleymom/17013cd/8562956/350930881_m.jpg


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